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Old 23rd April 2008, 12:13   #1 (permalink)
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Why 'no Macs' is no longer a defensible IT strategy More users are demanding Macs in the enterprise. Thanks to key computing shifts, supporting their appetite for Apple is now a straightforward option for IT

By Galen Gruman
April 21, 2008
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Once confined to marketing departments and media companies, the Mac is spilling over into a wider array of business environments, thanks to the confluence of a number of computing trends, not the least among them a rising tide of end-user affinity for the Apple experience.


Luckily for IT, many of those same trends are making it easier for tech departments to say yes to the Mac by facilitating IT's ability to provide enterprise-grade Mac management and support.
"We're seeing more requests outside of creative services to switch to Macs from PCs," notes David Plavin, operations manager for Mac systems engineering at the U.S. IT division of Publicis Groupe, a global advertising conglomerate. There are so many requests that Plavin now supports 2,500 Macs across the U.S. -- nearly a quarter of all Publicis' U.S. PCs.
And Plavin is less of an anomaly than you might think. Buoyed by increased interest in the consumer arena, Macs are cropping up in more and more organizations, in large part because end-users are pushing for them.
According to NPD Research, Apple's share of the retail market has climbed to 14 percent as of February 2008. Gartner and IDC report that the Mac's share in the U.S. as of March 31 was 6.6 percent. Alongside that home-based shift from PC to Mac is a significant uptake for Apple among businesses, as Forrester estimates organizational Mac adoption tripled last year to 4.2 percent, mainly on the backs of enthusiasts seeking approval for Apple's silver boxes in small workgroups.

Perhaps a better barometer of the trend is the effect increased Mac sales are having at outsourcing firms, which have traditionally been reluctant to support the platform due to a perceived lack of market in the past.
Centerbeam, a Windows management outsourcer for midsize businesses, is one such outsourcer eyeing the possibility of extending its services to cover the Mac, says Karen Hayward, Centerbeam's executive vice president. Security firm Kapersky Labs has already created a Mac version of its anti-virus software for release should Mac growth continue (and the Mac thus finds itself prey to more hackers), while Boingo Wireless, a Wi-Fi hotspot federator, is developing a Mac client to allow Mac users to tap into the Boingo network.
Couple this increasing attention to services with the falling away of another knock on the Mac, price, and you can see why even the federal government -- which has pockets of Mac users in a diverse set of agencies, including NASA, the U.S. Army, and the National Institute for Standards and Technology -- is prepping for increased use of Macs in business environments, having put together an official guide to implementing Mac security to conform to federal requirements.
After all, as Publicis' Plavin notes, Macs -- which cost the same as equivalently configured business-class PCs -- are cheaper to support because they are easier to support. And when it comes to diverting IT resources toward competitive advantage, doesn't ease of support sound compelling?

Galen Gruman is executive editor of InfoWorld.

Why 'no Macs' is no longer a defensible IT strategy | InfoWorld | Analysis | 2008-04-21 | By Galen Gruman

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Old 23rd April 2008, 14:43   #2 (permalink)
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Yeah, go stick it to em (administration) !

FYI, Mathayom Wat-Nairong next to Central has an all-mac lab of about 40 iMacs. Damn I should get transferred there.
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My gf just got new HP, her company flatly refused to talk about Macs.

But maybe the times are changing. With Windows share of the market falling below 95%, the Mac revlution is just around the corner.
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Hmmm. I'd like to be optimistic, but most schools here don't seem concerned about quality or even the cheaper maintenance. In our EP we got the cheapest crap the lowest bidder offered. Now about 20% of those machines are breaking down. That's a big percentage. This despite that dick-off we hired to maintain the labs (I was practically given the boot with managing the machines coz I was making a fuss over the RAM-order discrepancies when someone on the inside had someone on the outside steal parts). Up to before that though, I kept everything running top-notch despite them being Windoze machines (a lot of reformatting and re-installations required though) no hardware problems. Now the 'puters are dying quickly thanks to management. Alas this is exactly their plan.
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I hope you are aware that all the nasty stuff would come along with this.

As soon as Steve has understood that nowadays a comp. is something you just buy instead of saving for it there might be some sort of revolution. I'm just a general computer freak and don't really care what OS it is despite having to take the pee out of Vista. That's usually self-inflicted by the person in question and comes whenever someone praises his/her OS as the ultimate. Oh shite, that includes the 'anizehner'.
Seriously, can you gurus shed some light into that old story. You know, the one where Steve Jobs (that time considered a marketing sort of expert) puts a comp. on the market but makes a mess of the marketing of that machine. I don't quite get it, maybe there's nothing but it seems strange especially that he wasn't just 'some bloke into marketing'. I really would like to know, either way. That Win was ready there can hardly have been enough. Maybe it was the price from the beginning but wouldn't Jobs have noticed that?
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I hope you are aware that all the nasty stuff would come along with this.

As soon as Steve has understood that nowadays a comp. is something you just buy instead of saving for it there might be some sort of revolution. I'm just a general computer freak and don't really care what OS it is despite having to take the pee out of Vista. That's usually self-inflicted by the person in question and comes whenever someone praises his/her OS as the ultimate. Oh shite, that includes the 'anizehner'.
Seriously, can you gurus shed some light into that old story. You know, the one where Steve Jobs (that time considered a marketing sort of expert) puts a comp. on the market but makes a mess of the marketing of that machine. I don't quite get it, maybe there's nothing but it seems strange especially that he wasn't just 'some bloke into marketing'. I really would like to know, either way. That Win was ready there can hardly have been enough. Maybe it was the price from the beginning but wouldn't Jobs have noticed that?
So you've read the book eh?
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Noooo, please tell me, please, really really. I've searched on the net but couldn't find anything that really shed some light into this. The only stuff I found were things I already knew.

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These Mac - Windows wars are so last century.

Life has moved on.

By now the world has come to understand that hardware, operating system, and programs must be compatible and interchangable.

I can't believe Jobs is still in the mindset of telling people "No, you can't have it because I said so", tough moving Apple to Intel platform was the step in the right direction. What was he doing for the past twenty years? You don't tell customers "no". You ask them what exact configuration they want and deliver.

Eventually he'll fade away, like Castro. Then people will be able not only to buy Macs and run Windows, but buy Acer and run Mac OS, or build their own systems and run whatever they want - Windows, Leopard, Ubuntu - it doesn't matter, let the best system win.
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I do wish I had never introduced my better half to Mac, she is now as obsessed as me, probably a little more so. She needs a Mac upgrade every 6 months, next is the Mac Book Pro. She has a job, but not one that pays for Mac adiction, is there anything I can do about it?

Btw, St Johns has a lab full of Macs, must be over 40 of them. They are never used though as the IT teachers don't know how....
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Problem there mate, she has seen mine and she tried shredding the papaya in the CD slot and it didn't work, right bastard to clean it was. She is on a Mac Book now, next is the Pro shortly followed, I'm sure, by the Air. DON'T LET A THAI WOMAN NEAR A FUCKING Mac!!!!!! It will cost you a fortune.
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haha.....learnt the hard way huh?
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With all due respect, I find this article more realistic.

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