Better to have Mac or PC in Bkk - Page 10 - Ajarn Forum

discus2000 · 23rd July 2008, 16:42

teehee

trep · 23rd July 2008, 20:20

In today's Database there's a nice write up on the newest Samsung with touch screen and 5mega pixel camera.

No support from Apple, as expected.

zehner · 23rd July 2008, 20:48

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Originally Posted by trep

Apple

lovely

says here it's pc/mac compatible btw

Samsung F480 - Mobile Phone Reviews with Phone Critic

Eric C · 24th July 2008, 01:34

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Originally Posted by trep

I doubt that PDAs that run on Windows mobile platform work with Macs either.

I'm less interested in what you doubt than in what you actually know. Your last 1/2 dozen posts are uninformed assumptions at best. PPCs work just fine with Macs. Apple doesn't write the software to make it happen same as MS doesn't write the software for Palm PDAs to work with windows. Next!

trep · 24th July 2008, 14:16

Apple - Mac OS X Leopard - Features - iSync Devices

That's what I know - Pocket PCs needs third party software (not free), and only three Samsung models are listed.

Should I doubt Apple's own feature list? Should I think they have missed something they can brag about?

MS doesn't NEED to write their own set of drivers, manufacturers do it for them, and manufacturers are too lazy to write Mac versions of their software.

iSink is Mac's own program, they write it themselves and update it once a year. New phones/PDAs are released every day.

zehner · 24th July 2008, 14:25

SageAndOnion · 25th July 2008, 11:30

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Originally Posted by trep

MS doesn't NEED to write their own set of drivers, manufacturers do it for them

Although this is true, a lot of manufacturers have been rather remiss about writing drivers for Vista. In any case it isn't really Apple or Microsoft's fault if they don't.

trep · 25th July 2008, 15:19

True, which means sticking to the most popular platform is the safest way to trouble free life.

LOTS of people don't want to leave XP.

Eric C · 25th July 2008, 15:31

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Originally Posted by trep

iSink is Mac's own program, they write it themselves and update it once a year. New phones/PDAs are released every day.

Yes it is and I would guess the reason they haven't bothered trying to support every mobile phone or PDA device out there is because 3rd party developers have already bridged that gap but more importantly because the iPhone has been in development for a long time so they put their engineering resources into that. With the iPhone out now and selling like hotcakes I doubt we'll see much more resources put into iSync but it's still there and anyone can write a little plugin to make it work with their device.
Here's the software for Windows Mobile devices to work with a Mac:
Missing Sync for Windows Mobile 4.0.3 - MacUpdate

If you want to use a Sony Ericsson phone that's not on Apple's supported iSync list, like I do, it will cost you all of $3 to buy a plugin that adds support for it.
Sony Ericsson iSync Plugins 1.7.4 - MacUpdate

trep · 25th July 2008, 15:41

So with PC this connectivity comes free, courtesy of manufacturers, but with Apple you have to buy a third party tool, with a credit card over the Internet.

Not particularly convenient, woudn't you say?

theanimaster · 26th July 2008, 22:37

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Originally Posted by trep

So with PC this connectivity comes free, courtesy of manufacturers, but with Apple you have to buy a third party tool, with a credit card over the Internet.

Not particularly convenient, woudn't you say?

It's because mac users have the money to

LOL. Sorry, my stupidest answer yet, I know. It's late. I'm sleepy. Flame on..

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Originally Posted by trep

I punched "sony ericsson pc suite mac" in google and the first result was "I have a Sony Ericsson W810 and the software that comes with it (for transfers between phone and computer) is for PC, does anyone know of any Mac alternative??"

Would that be the most common type of questions for Mac users - "I bought .... and it doesn't have Mac support. Where can I find an alternative?"

The w810 and my k750i and a whole lot of other Sony Ericsson phones have mac support. Infact, Sony Ericsson is one of the best brands to get if you're a mac user because of the support for their models.

With the 2 particular models above (and probably every other SE phone), there's a "remote" feature that allows you to control your computer via bluetooth through the phone. On a mac. I think I was even raving about this in one of my "why I choose macs" threads. iSync syncs Nokia, SE phones and a plethora of others. One app syncs all. With Windoze you'd need a particular app for a particular phone vendor, right?

Sure there is no PC suite for mac -- albeit because macs don't really need it. Pretty much the same way new macs don't need drivers for webcams as they don't need webcams in the first place because there's already one built into them (minus the mac mini).

Also let's keep in mind the small percentage of macs in the marketplace. Phone vendors would rather not invest (waste) money in porting every reiteration of their software to the mac as they would be at a loss. It just makes sense for them to support the larger percent of the PC market and let Apple deal with their own.

So the PC is really what you want if you're scared that something might not have that cool software-suite-that-no-one-really-uses-anyways. It also means you're ready to deal with viruses, trojans, malware and all that (because as many posts point out here... maybe it's not as bad a problem as it seems afterall... but don't quote me on this).

The mac is what you want if you're a newbie and want to make sure you're getting the right machine. Because with the newer macs if you find you can't handle OS X, you can always boot in Windoze (yes, on your mac) and use it as a full-fledged Windoze PC. Once you get a PC however, you can't change your mind later and go to OS X -- you've already bought the hardware, damn it.

SageAndOnion · 26th July 2008, 23:43

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ready to deal with viruses, trojans, malware and all that

Change the record, please.

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With Windoze you'd need a particular app for a particular phone vendor, right?

No, I am almost certain this is wrong. The other half just swapped phones (different manufacturer and model) and still uses the same sync program. I would have thought any PDAs (maybe you didn't mean those?) that ran Windows mobile would use the same sync program, regardless of who made the phone...

daneel · 27th July 2008, 12:00

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Originally Posted by theanimaster

The mac is what you want if you're a newbie and want to make sure you're getting the right machine. Because with the newer macs if you find you can't handle OS X, you can always boot in Windoze (yes, on your mac) and use it as a full-fledged Windoze PC. Once you get a PC however, you can't change your mind later and go to OS X -- you've already bought the hardware, damn it.

OK legally you can't cause Jobs won't like it but is very much doable. I think that is exactly why Windows has such market dominance, because you can put it on any PC, legally.

SageAndOnion · 28th July 2008, 21:27

To sum up, Bill Gates had the vision when he started Microsoft to see that the IT market could be split between hardware and software / operating systems. Over 30 years later and Apple have still not caught up with this innovative approach.