I'm sure once the dual cores are actually out and shipping, you would be able to pick one up at MBK. I absolutely love the *assurances* that something doesn't exist, from the guy who admitted he hasn't been to MBK in a decade (or something equally silly). Seriously, is trep even in BKK?
Good luck hunting for that "True Milestone" you saw on the internet...
A lot of folks at MBK sell grey imports, phones bought elsewhere and brought to Thailand. For one thing you have to pay heavy premium on them, another is the issue of warranty and service.
Some believe they sell those phones even before they were available in the West, like the above mentioned case with Nexus S.
Here's the list of locations:
I didn't post it because I saw it on the internet, I posted it because I saw it next to the iPhone 4 when I bought mine.
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Last edited by klendathu; 4th January 2011 at 14:10.
Come on, now, in all honesty, the Samsun Galaxy, of the majority of 'me too' Android phones, actually is a very decent piece of kit, and well deserves to establish itself as a serious 'single platform' contender to the market leader. Samsun was smart insofar that they differentiate by carrier and by models, while listing them all under the 'Samsung Galaxy S' brand (even the Nexus 'S' sports the clear Galaxy 'S' identifier - this allows Samsung to count all models as a single sales figure (i.e. the 10 million number is all brands counter together). Samsung also engages in the almost traditional method of counting 'shipped' phones, instead of actual 'sold to consumer' phones as their numbers. Microsoft did the same, whereas they were able to claim 14 million sold phones ('sold from manufacturers to carriers and distributors', not 'sold to consumers').
Apple actually, from what I understand, counts actual phones sold to end users, which makes for a massive difference in actual numbers, by comparison.
A direct sales comparison between the Galaxy S and iphone4 isn't really a valid comparison anyway since Apple chooses to put all their eggs in one basket rather than offering a variety of handsets like Samsung does. If you want a comparison of sales figures between the companies then compare the number of smartphones sold by Samsung to the number sold by Apple. Another valid comparison would be to compare the platform. Compare the number of Android based phones (not tablets or mp3 players) sold to the number of ios based phones (not tablets or mp3 players).
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CDMA iPhones just around the corner. Tens of millions will be sold. Why is that an uncomfortable thought for you? It is what it is...
The bottom line is, the iPhone 4 is the GOLD standard in the phone market. As usual, every year, Apple does it first, then the rest of the indutry copies what they do. 2011 will be the same. The new iPhone and the iPad 2 will come out. People will line up for days to get it, then a cheap plastic Samsung copy will hit the market with some sort of Android OS installed in it. It will have every single port under the sun. USB 3.0, HDMI, milti card readers, i mean, it will have it all. the iPad 2 will have only 1 usb port 2.0 and it will outsell the Android copies by tens of millions.
The same will happen in 2012, and so on.
Unless you've been living under a rock you will know that the top 2 gadgets of 2010 were the iPhone 4 and the iPad. Actually, on CNN, the iPad made it to #1 as the gadget of the year. The iPad has changed the computer industry forever in a way that no tablet ever did. Then everyone else came to copy it. As usual
Last edited by klendathu; 4th January 2011 at 15:20.
Even Ebay reports it.
iPad & iPhone Top eBay’s 2010 Most Shopped Products List | PadGadget
eBay’s Picks for America’s “Top Shopped” and Pop Culture Obsessions of 2010
The world has a love affair with Apple products.
- 1. iPhone 4
- 2. Barbie
- 3. Military jackets
- 4. Hot Wheels
- 5. iPad
- 6. World Cup
- 7. The Beatles
- 8. Silly Bandz
- 9. Alice in Wonderland
- 10. New Orleans Saints
- 11. Marc Jacobs
- 12. LeBron James
I don't see how that needs to take away from other products. Enjoy your Shitdroids and live happily ever after. What's the problem?
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But if you must know:
iPhone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I don't doubt that Android will (or is) outsell the iPhone. In the USA we're talking about 20 phones on all the carriers vs 1 phone in 1 carrier. It doesn't mean it's better.
Google will wait for Apple to capture the imagination of consumers all over the world, then they will come out with an open source cheap copy that you can have on your $50 Crapdroid.
and so it goes on and on.
Last edited by klendathu; 4th January 2011 at 15:50.
File:IPhone sales per quarter simple.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
iPhone 1 : 6.124 million
iPhone 3G : 20.254 million
iPhone 3GS : 33.254 million
iPhone 4 : 14.102 million
Total iPhones : 73.734 million *sold*
Android phones 2008/2009 : 8.450 million
Android phones 2009/2010 : anyone got the 2010 numbers? We know that Samsung sold 10 million Galaxy S models, which is more than the rest of the Android manufacturers combined, by some estimates (which surprises me, if that includes HTC) - but somehow I can't seem to dig up up Android sales for 2010.
Anyone has any idea? trep? Anyone?
But in the end. really, who gives a flying fuck?
I can tell you who was the #1 top seller. Nokia with their rainbow of cheap crappy phones and fancy laggy smart phones. Selling like hot cakes. Does it mean they are better products than the iPhone? Not a chance.
Here. This can give you an idea, at least in the USA
Nielsen: Android now 40 percent of U.S. smartphone sales - FierceDeveloper
Devices runningGoogle's (NASDAQ:GOOG) Android mobile operating system accounted for more than two fifths of all smartphones sold in the U.S. between June 2010 and November 2010, according to new Nielsen Company data. Android sales accounted for 40.8 percent of U.S. smartphone purchases at the end of November, up from 27.5 percent at midyear--Apple's (NASDAQ:AAPL) iOS increased from 20.9 percent in June to 26.9 percent in November, while Research In Motion's (NASDAQ:RIMM) BlackBerry plummeted from 35.0 percent to 19.2 percent during the same timeframe.
Read more: Nielsen: Android now 40 percent of U.S. smartphone sales - FierceDeveloper Nielsen: Android now 40 percent of U.S. smartphone sales - FierceDeveloper
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Someone can buy a Motorola Defy, for example. A phone that is half the price of an iPhone and you can submerge under water.
As I said, the CDMA iPhone will be shipped soon. That'll sell out. The iPhone 4 is selling as fast as they can make them really. iPad 2 aqnd iPhone 4 (s/G/5. whatever it will be) will sell out as well. and it will still be a better phone that any of the crapdroids on the market.
Any chance that the moderators can ban jlsdfgb's (klendathu) 6th account and set a 50 post minimum before anyone can post in the tech forums? That'll slow him down at least. I can just picture him frothing at the mouth behind his keyboard as he prepares his next troll post. I've been using BBS's and the web since the mid ninety's and have never seen anyone so passionate to have their voice heard in a forum.
The 10 biggest tech 'fails' of 2010 - CNN
iPhone 3GS : 33.254 million
iPhone 4 : 14.102 millionSomething doesn't add up here.Originally Posted by klendathu
I've got to imagine that around half of those 3gs phones were sold in 2009 and not 2010 so how are you getting 50 million? I'm not saying 50 million phones weren't sold and really don't care enough to look it up. I just think you should check your facts before posting.
Do you think this is a valid comparison considering the iphone has been out longer than Android? What's the problem with just comparing Android to iOS smartphone numbers for 2010? We are talking about current popularity as opposed to history right? I wouldn't make the claim that Atari is more popular just because it has sold more units than the PS3 has. (I don't know if it really did. I'm just making a point.)Originally Posted by Cthulhu
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I believe LDMA has pointed out once to use the 'report' function in order to point him towards that guy.
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With the slow growth curve of the initial two years for iPhone and the claimed astronomical growth rates for Android since 2009, you'd figure they would even out the numbers...?
Additionally, just looking at sales in only 2010 ignores the established market momentum by the phones that have previously been sold.
Apples to Androids, my friend. Either way you turn it, we are still missing the numbers for 2010 for Android -- so even if we wanted to make that comparison, we can't, as we don't have the numbers, which are apparently not being touted by the manufacturers.
Lastly, there is the perception factor - even with Android manufacturers claiming 60 zillion shipped handsets, the fact remains that on the streets I see *a lot* of iPhones, as well as a healthy number of Blackberries - but I see hardly any Android phones, except occasionally some geeky kid typing away on one, or some lonely guy sitting in the BTS staring at his Acer... ;-)
Gartner claims that Samsung had 32% of Android sales; that HTC had 27% and that Motorola brought in the rear with 17%. So, if we assume that Samsung sold 10 million Galaxy Android phones, than that leaves HTC with 8.5 million, and Moto with around 5 million - this is all speculation on too little information, obviously.
But it does show that Apple sold in the neighborhood of 39.99 million iPhones in 2010; and by the above numbers, the combined major Android manufacturers sold 23 million. Not too shabby, and certainly a serious increase from the null digit sales a year earlier (less than 500,000), but just as Apple's sales figures will flatten out at one point, so will Android's (and they have already shown to start leveling off) - and as k-pod has pointed out, once Apple provides a CDMA iPhone, the curves in the USA will significantly shift. Ditto once Apple makes a CDMA iPhone available to the likes of Indian carriers Tata, and the other major Indian carrier, the numbers could shift (not much shifting in Thailand as there is no CDMA worth noting here, of course).
Phone Finder results - GSMArena.com
I'm actually really surprised that they've sold around 10 million Galaxy S phones. I wouldn't have thought that their sales would have come close to the iphone 4's but 10 million and 14 million isn't really that big of a gap.
Here's a cool new Android phone from a Thai company. There is something for everyone in the Android universe it seems
Spriiing Smile Android phone hits Thailand by way of Sweden with China's help -- Engadget
Yet, we're not hearing anything. The only company releasing detailed numbers is Apple, it seems.
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