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    Apple's CEO apologize for failure of Apple Maps and Suggests third party replacements

    Well as I live and breath, Apple is apologizing for something!?



    Note the last part:

    While we’re improving Maps, you can try alternatives by downloading map apps from the App Store like Bing, MapQuest and Waze, or use Google or Nokia maps by going to their websites and creating an icon on your home screen to their web app.
    Poor Tim Cooks. Ditched Google Maps and ends up admitting that its superior to Apple Maps.

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    Apple were probably over-confident in rolling out their own maps app as part of iOS 6. If they had released a prototype version just in the App Store and let people Install and test it first, while keeping Google Maps as the default app, they could have avoided the embarrassment they're suffering now.
    It doesn't surprise me that the Google Maps app still has the edge - they've had ten years to tweak stuff and they now have a huge databank of very high res street view imagery. Apple doesn't have anything comparable to that so its having to rely on users to report the mistakes. So they're apologizing and rightly so, but in fact Apple usually apologize if they get something wrong. It's not exceptional.

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    It's such a shame. Apple released Siri as a beta product, and now they do it again with Maps. Steve Jobs said Tim Cooks is the obvious choice as the next CEO, but he's not a product person. I can understand where Jobs is coming from. Tim Cooks is great on strategy, but on creative vision... I don't think there's another Steve Jobs in the tech world right now...

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    Regarding strategy, I'd say that Larry Ellison CEO of Oracle is no.1 in the tech world relentlessly building a huge software empire, the latest acquisition being Sun. But he hasn't produced any inspirational product of his own. Regarding creative vision, Mark Zuckerberg is undeniably a creative genius. But he doesn't know how to convert Russia to Facebook, and it's been declining ever since the share offering. So yes, I can't think of another Steve either.
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    Google's Street view... there's a lot more to it than the average person thunk: Google deliberately stole information but executives 'covered it up' for years | Mail Online
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    Shocking if it was intentionally built into the tracking software. I guess they couldn't resist the greatest data mining opportunity of the century. It will be interesting to see whether that programmer changes his mind about not talking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theanimaster View Post
    Google's Street view... there's a lot more to it than the average person thunk: Google deliberately stole information but executives 'covered it up' for years | Mail Online
    Not sure if you're trying to defend Apple, but posting that link doesn't change a thing nor is it on topic

    Quote Originally Posted by MDJase View Post
    It's such a shame. Apple released Siri as a beta product, and now they do it again with Maps
    Siri was pretty slick though. It also made google have to seriously up their own voice controller to be on pair with Siri. Competition is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enclavean View Post
    Siri was pretty slick though. It also made google have to seriously up their own voice controller to be on pair with Siri. Competition is good.
    Except that they bought Siri. Google & Samsung had their own voice controls before apple bought siri and incorporated it into the OS.

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    Didn't Google do the same thing with Motorola patents? They bought Motorola for their patents so they wouldn't get sued by Apple. Nowadays it's all about patents.

    On a side note, I'm surprised Apple didn't buy out Corning when they had the chance. Now every smartphone company can compete with Apple on this.

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    It's beginning to look as though Apple was Steve Jobs; he's dead and Apple is going down.
    The iPhone 5 is suffering glitches (more than one) and maps is a disaster; hell they're recommending Nokia and some other phone (can't remember) for maps!
    Anybody seen the latest offering from HP? Their new ElitePad 900 is simply great.

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    Yeah, Steve Jobs was the reason why Apple got started. Steve Jobs was the reason why Apple went down in the 80s (he got booted). Steve Jobs was the reason why Apple went back up in the late 90s (he came back). Steve Jobs is the reason why Apple is the most valuable company in the world. So yeah, I think you're right to assume that Apple = Steve Jobs. I'm sure Tim Cook can keep the ship steady for a bit carrying the momentum of Steve Jobs, but sooner or later they're going to run out of momentum.

    Same thing with Microsoft. Microsoft = Bill Gates. Every since Bill Gates "stepped down", they've being in decline. Microsoft is now worth less than back in it's heyday. And that's not even accounting for inflation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THX 1133 View Post
    t's beginning to look as though Apple was Steve Jobs; he's dead and Apple is going down.
    The iPhone 5 is suffering glitches (more than one) and maps is a disaster; hell they're recommending Nokia and some other phone (can't remember) for maps!
    You need a lot more evidence than a few glitches and maps (which is far from being a disaster) to support the argument that Apple was so dependent on Steve Jobs that it cannot succeed without him. In fact, the iPhone 5 so far refutes that argument more than it supports it. The competition from other smartphone and tablet manufacturers is becoming more intense now - I'd concede that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baksiidaa View Post
    Except that they bought Siri. Google & Samsung had their own voice controls before apple bought siri and incorporated it into the OS.
    I might have missed the point here, but Apple have now improved Siri to the point where it's superior to Samsung's S Voice. Various reviews indicate that Siri is generally quicker and more accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDJase View Post
    Same thing with Microsoft. Microsoft = Bill Gates. Every since Bill Gates "stepped down", they've being in decline. Microsoft is now worth less than back in it's heyday. And that's not even accounting for inflation.
    Jase, you're being sarcastic right? Because I had the impression that Microsoft is on the way up again, with the imminent launch of the Surface, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THX 1133 View Post
    hell they're recommending Nokia
    How embarrassing is that? Cameras are better on the Nokia too.

    Quote Originally Posted by THX 1133 View Post
    some other phone (can't remember)
    Not Samsung, surely..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tungsten View Post
    Jase, you're being sarcastic right? Because I had the impression that Microsoft is on the way up again, with the imminent launch of the Surface, etc.
    If Microsoft is on its way up, it certainly hasn't reached there yet. Just look at its value. Also, Microsoft recently said Windows 8 isn't finished. So they'll be releasing an unfinished product. I just hope it won't be Long Horn (Vista) all over again. Also, they're going to be selling it at extremely cheap prices to compete with Apple. So there goes one of Microsoft's biggest cash cows.

    As for Surface, I'm looking forward to that. But we'll see. So far Windows Phones are nothing short of disappointing. Xbox gaming is Microsoft's only redeeming value right now, not counting Bill Gate's cash cow Office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paully View Post
    How embarrassing is that? Cameras are better on the Nokia too.
    The Nokia 920 looks amazing. I love the wireless charger and the camera on it is probably the best in it's class (smartphones). If only Nokia weren't stuck with WP because if they put Jellybean on it, I would buy it in a heartbeat. Same goes for the iPhone 5. I'd seriously consider buying either phone if they were running stock Android 4.1.

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