When need comes a knockin' - Page 5 - Ajarn Forum

re_fuse · 17th June 2008, 07:58

Americans have the only embassies that even sort of try and look after their own ....If it was an Aussie ....You would be left for dead in almost all, (except for exceptional) cases.

tootie · 17th June 2008, 11:03

Make sure you get some sleep, and try not to worry about him too much!

Aquaman · 17th June 2008, 11:28

Jim, i feel for you man. i feel for the guy and his family who you are trying to help as well.
Your a good guy.

Lotuslevi · 17th June 2008, 11:38

Jimbo, the reason why we have so many problems in this world is because it lacks people like you. You probably want to make sure that all your efforts were not in vain, but the truth is, as notwithstanding above me stated earlier, you have done everything you can do and just about gone beyond what should be expected from a decent human being. Try not to lose sleep over this.

And Peice Train, I just have one question for you: has anyone ever helped you out in this world? because if the answer is `no` then you haven`t learned compassion and therefore are in need of a lesson. And if the answer is yes, then you are a f@cking hypocrite to criticize Jimbo over this.

re_fuse · 17th June 2008, 11:42

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Originally Posted by Lotuslevi

I just have one question for you: has anyone ever helped you out in this world? because if the answer is `no` then you haven`t learned compassion and therefore are in need of a lesson. And if the answer is yes, then you are a f@cking hypocrite to criticize Jimbo over this

Harken to these wORDS LADDIES

daneel · 17th June 2008, 11:49

Hey refuse, help me out will, I am down the drain so to speak, now give me some of your vCash

otherwise you are a hypocrite too

No seriously. Jimbo you have done what you could imo, although I think you should feel responsible for Jammaal in the end you aren't.

Piece Train · 17th June 2008, 11:59

Any proof Jimbo's story is real?

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Originally Posted by Lotuslevi

And Peice Train, I just have one question for you: has anyone ever helped you out in this world? because if the answer is `no` then you haven`t learned compassion and therefore are in need of a lesson. And if the answer is yes, then you are a f@cking hypocrite to criticize Jimbo over this.

Get lost, idiot!

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Originally Posted by phuketbound

I hope it all works out, Jimbo, in that he is found safely and he gets support from the embassy. I thought in case of an emergency that often (At least Canadian) embassy will send you home and pay for it, if need be.

As usual, I'm with PB on this one. After all, we were together from the beginning of her sojourn to Thailand.

natalie8 · 17th June 2008, 12:06

Any proof that the Canadian embassy has helped someone out? I had an issue that I needed help with from the embassy and they treated me like shit, like a criminal.

aging one · 17th June 2008, 12:07

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Originally Posted by Piece Train

At least Canadian) embassy will send you home and pay for it, if need be.

The quote is PB

You will have to pay them back trust me.

re_fuse · 17th June 2008, 12:17

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Originally Posted by daneel

Hey refuse, help me out will, I am down the drain so to speak, now give me some of your vCash otherwise you are a hypocrite too

Ok keep an eye out for "Who's got the Biggest Apendages" thread I could skewer the results in your favour if need be.

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phuketbound · 17th June 2008, 12:18

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Originally Posted by Piece Train

As usual, I'm with PB on this one. After all, we were together from the beginning of her sojourn to Thailand.

How are we 'together' on this? I think Jimbo is helping him, and that is a good thing. I'm just hoping that the embassy will do something. Jimbo can only do so much.

I know of other Canadians abroad that were in an emergency situation, and had no money to get home. The embassy paid her flight back. I'm not sure if they had to pay them back, and I don't know if the U.S embassy would do the same. By the sounds of what Jimbo is saying - it doesn't seem so.

daneel · 17th June 2008, 13:58

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Originally Posted by re_fuse

Ok keep an eye out for "Who's got the Biggest Apendages" thread I could skewer the results in your favour if need be.

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Eric C · 17th June 2008, 14:16

Jimbo you are a saint!

Wanting to help people like this guy is exactly why I decided to work as a paramedic.

I think Jimbo's rapidly rising reputation speaks volumes to how the Ajarn Forum community is behind you. Jai dee mak leuy!

jimbo · 17th June 2008, 14:43

Thanks guys. Sometimes this board really helps in the tough times.....down times are rough...then the board is there.

PT: piss off.

I rejected your friend request,...creep.

LATEST EMAIL sums it up:

Dear Mr. and MRs. SImmons,

At 2:30 am (Tuesday morning) Atlanta time [3:15 pm Seoul time] Jamaal called me from a district in Seoul called Itaewon. It is known for having many foreigners. I sent the number to the embassy and they are on their way there to find him. They called back the number he used and it was at an internet cafe. The owner will try to keep him there until the embassy officials arrive.

I know Mr. Simmons was against hospitalization, but it seems our only option. I don't think it will be a problem getting him released to a family member later in the week, and it seems the safest option for Jamaal. I will be sure that they don't treat him or make any big diagnosis, but rather JUST hold him long enough for Mr. Simmons to get here.

He's been gone for 21 hours (nearly)..I'm sure he is very tired and needs a rest. The embassy will look into hospitalization.

He seemed (on the phone) confused about his whereabouts, but other than that he seemed ok....and able to talk, and not hurt or very distressed.

We should have him soon.

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miraculously 20 minutes after he called me, the embassy had him. (JUST NOW).....they will take him to the embassy and then push for hospitalization.

Here's an interesting email I got from the embassy earlier today.

Dear Jimbo,

I will definitely share your email with the rest of the section. Thank you for taking your time to write it and to care about Jamaal and his family. Please understand that his case is a priority for us, as it has been since we first heard about him on Friday and throughout the weekend. Our Consul General has been informed of the situation.

This morning we filed a missing person's report with the police, and the police will post his picture and description around all police stations. Embassy staff also walked around the neighborhood looking for Jamaal.

I called his mother and gave her the same information. We wanted to check that the hospitals or police stations had not admitted him before calling her. We will continue to check with local hospitals and other facilities. We are also giving his name and photo to the internet cafes in the area in hopes that one of them will see Jamaal and contact us. His aunt said that Jamaal sent an email on Tuesday, at 4:57 am.

I will seriously look into the hospitalization option and try to convince Jamaal to be committed to a mental hospital. If you and his family could also try to convince him, we might succeed.

You raise a good point about the difficulty of cases involving mental health. Consular officers are not qualified to diagnose mental illness and are not given authority to compel hospitalization or treatment based on our observations. Furthermore, we are in a sovereign country and the local authorities are responsible for the decision to commit a person to an institution. As Jamaal had been evaluated at a hospital on Friday and Saturday and was released, it is clear that they did not find his condition serious enough to require hospitalization. When Jamaal is found again, we will attempt to contact a different hospital here in Seoul and see if they will evaluate him.

If I hear anything new, I will let you know.

zehner · 17th June 2008, 14:52

well done jimbo.