"Keep your hands where we can see them - away from the degree certificate"Originally Posted by Bangkok Phil
The worst job in Thailand must be the man who has to sit down with a blue marker pen and mark a number two on the two-baht coins to stop people thinking they are one-baht coins.
LDMA IS A DUMB CVNTfalling asleep / passing out in an upstairs short time room above a carboy bar hardly counts ......Originally Posted by reg the wedge
Last edited by kingwilly; 29th January 2010 at 11:11.
I wonder if there's some dreadlocked Khao San Road counterfeiter getting sweated down at this very moment?
"Look, all we want are some names. Give us the names and we'll go. It's your choice. Either give us the names and we'll leave or don't give us the names and another Bob Marley album gets it"
Would LoveBucket be the head teacher there?Originally Posted by torbek
At the risk of being ran up the flagpole for this, I dont' have too much sympathy for anyone trying to live in a country illegally. If you're not prepared to face the music, don't sneak into the concert; we're not seeking political asylum here.
The two teachers I know currently facing the music have a right of appeal. But I don't think they, or anyone else in this situation, would have a leg to stand on.Originally Posted by columbia
That's pretty sad, I suggest you read a bit more on this. There would be very few teachers here if all the 'illegal' ones were removed.Originally Posted by crew
How many are strictly legal anyway?
How many have a degree? It's easy to say 'I do' on an anonymous web forum.
At the end of the day, the teachers involved were asked to get fake degrees by the school, in their situation, what would you do?
Nobody makes you do, or feel, anything. The choice is always yours--unless caused by torture or some other extreme duress.Originally Posted by bet
Living in a foreign country lends itself to vulnerability. If your school asks you to put yourself in a vulnerable position, you should find out if they will defend you when push comes to shove...of course they won't. If you're not comfortable breaking the law, don't. If Thailand has a teacher shortage, that's Thailand's problem, not the foreigners'.
A bit more personal accountability and heightened sense of personal responsibility is never a bad thing.
I'm usually not such a taskmaster, but excuses only get folks so far in life--especially when defending yourself to the Thai police. Prove you're absolutely innocent, or pay up farang.
This is what I find most interesting about what seems to have happened last Friday.Originally Posted by columbia
It appears that MOE is the entity that initiated this action and turned it over to Immigration to enforce. This makes sense in that MOE does not have police powers and Immigration surely does.
If true, this would dispell the notion that MOE is leaving everything in the hands of the schools when it comes to verifying degrees and such.
bullcrap...I've seen many teachers with the fakest of documents get TL and WP. If the school says it's OK, then it's OK.
MoE can't check on anything, won't, don't have the time. Police can't check, won't, don't have the time. They probably knew about all these teachers for some time and are now cleaning up. Once they get more names, they'll do it again. I think a trip to Khaosan Rd. and 1 clean up every 2 years is not bad.
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You need to look at the top post on page 12 of the "Consequences of a Fake Degree" thread.
If it's happening, it's a good thing IMHO.
You are free to disagree.
My guess is that you will.
Type o I assume, from his other posts I would not believe reg the wedge is a man's man.Originally Posted by kingwilly
Right behind the glass lays a real blade of grass.
Be careful as you pass, move along move along.
Right??? All intelligent teachers listen to what their schools say.Originally Posted by mustafarodupthere
Rationalize it however you want. It won't help when the law comes to pay a visit. Right or wrong, you need to know the realities of the country in which you reside. If the authorities want to bait folks into breaking the laws, you need to be aware of it and act accordingly.
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
If they can't, don't and won't check then how do they get any names? If they can't, won't and don't do anything then why are they raiding schools?Originally Posted by mustafarodupthere
It seems like the people they were puling in last week had TLs and WPs, or at least had at some time in the past and were happily working away at a school who told them to use fake docs. Doesn't look like it was the school who shopped 'em mate!Originally Posted by mustafarodupthere
Excuse me for not taking this seriously .....
My school and the school next door were raided late last year. Nobody was arrested, but some folks at the neighboring school did get fired for having fake or insufficient degrees.Originally Posted by jonny danger
Posted about it here (as did at least one other person) and felt the wrath of the naysayers, ostriches and scoffers.
As I said at the time, Thailand's a big place and not everything that happens is reported on ajarn.com
Bullshit, in the poor schools perhaps. Work in a professional establishment and you can't get by on a fake degree, the school itself will check up before TL and work permit is processed.Originally Posted by bet
Kick all the fakes out, make the industry more proffessional and the salaries will go up for those of us left. The downside is there will be a huge teacher shortage and this will affect poor govt schools the most I'd suspect. But, who in LOS really gives a fuck about economically disadvantaged people when there is money to be made.
Now that's what I'd call a funny guy!!!Originally Posted by crew