More Raids on Schools? - Jan '07

[bet]

Bullshit, in the poor schools perhaps. Work in a professional establishment and you can't get by on a fake degree, the school itself will check up before TL and work permit is processed.

Yeah right. It's the rich private schools that are the biggest offenders here. I know the schools that were raided.

[defender]

Yeah, it does seem to be the rich private bilingual schools that were affected primarily here. They have been making buckets of cash over the last few years, most use "illegal" teachers where they have to - if it's a toss-up between turning away paying students or putting an under-qualified teacher in front of the class, then "any teacher will do!"

[mustafarodupthere]

If they can't, don't and won't check then how do they get any names? If they can't, won't and don't do anything then why are they raiding schools?



It seems like the people they were puling in last week had TLs and WPs, or at least had at some time in the past and were happily working away at a school who told them to use fake docs. Doesn't look like it was the school who shopped 'em mate!

No I meant, do nothing about checking people out.
I think they pay a visit to the KhaoSan rd. people once in a while and keep a list of their customers. Give me the list or I close you down. It's happened many times before. Last raid to the KSR guys they ceased a bunch of names of customers and went to seek them out. I think that's why it takes a while to track everyone down.
It's like buying fake software at Pantip. last time I saw a cop buying fake DVDs. It's a big game. If the farangs are stupid enough to go to KSR to get fake degrees they have to know they'll get caught, unless they are planning to teach for a little bit and then leave.

[traveler2]

I wonder if there's some dreadlocked Khao San Road counterfeiter getting sweated down at this very moment?

They should have never let these counterfeit stalls exist in the first place. Sure, one can get fake documents several ways, but having these present and easily accesible is inviting trouble. In short, TIT.
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At the end of the day, the teachers involved were asked to get fake degrees by the school, in their situation, what would you do?

So, this may give them a leg to stand on, no?


Also, regarding schools out in the sticks, I predict they will start making it to these schools within the next 6 months since it will take some time to get the ball rolling.

[mustafarodupthere]

Exactly. Same game going on at Pantip. There has to be millions and millions of dollars in counterfit software there. I've bought software for 10 dollars that retails for 4,000 dollars. As I said before, it's all a big game. The KSR guys get money out of the fake stuff they make, once in a while the police shakes them down and goes after a few farangs and that way Imm./ MoE and police all look like they are trying to "fix" the situation in Thailand, and at the same time, letting the KSR people stay and get the farangs money. It works out for everyone, except the farang. As usual.

[Humbert]

It works out for everyone, except the farang. As usual.

I don't know.
we save a fortune in software and playstation games.

[mustafarodupthere]

I don't know.
we save a fortune in software and playstation games.

Oh, I only meant the KSR situation.

I LOVE PANTIP! Fake software rules!

[Loaded]

The KSR guys get money out of the fake stuff they make, once in a while the police shakes them down and goes after a few farangs and that way Imm./ MoE and police all look like they are trying to "fix" the situation in Thailand, and at the same time, letting the KSR people stay and get the farangs money. It works out for everyone, except the farang. As usual.

I'm not sure the Thai police are that intelligent. Sure they shake down the KSR people, but then use that information to catch farang who obtained wps with fakes degrees (this is the responsibility of ministries of immigration, education and/or labour)? Not so sure.

[defender]

I'm not sure the Thai police are that intelligent. Sure they shake down the KSR people, but then use that information to catch farang who obtained wps with fakes degrees (this is the responsibility of ministries of immigration, education and/or labour)? Not so sure.

Seems pretty certain that that is what's happened though this time. It seems they are better organised than people thought!

[OhhhYouKnow]

Private schools in Thailand will never improve until they stop relying on government authorities to give them hiring and curriculum standards and start considering it their own responsibility to their customers, the students and their families, to maintain standards of excellence.

[traveler2]

Private schools in Thailand will never improve until they stop relying on government authorities to give them hiring and curriculum standards and start considering it their own responsibility to their customers, the students and their families, to maintain standards of excellence.

TIT, though bro! IMO it is going to take ages to see this.

[defender]

They are literally printing money some of these places!

[Humbert]

I'm wondering when raids are going to hit ChiangMai.
My school will not employ a single part time teacher for fear of repurcussions, the staff are all legitimised, yet I would warrant that 80% of teachers in the city are illegal, maybe more.
Nearly every language school in the city employs only part time members of staff.
You would hardly need to check KSR hard drives, don't need a degree to work illegally.

[munkijism]

rich private schools

check what I wrote mate I said proffessional establishment, I didn't say rich school. they are certainly not always the same thing.

[defender]

Damn right!