More Raids on Schools? - Jan '07

[torbek]

check what I wrote mate I said proffessional establishment, I didn't say rich school. they are certainly not always the same thing.

So how many "professional establishments" are there in Thailand?

And "professional" by who's criteria?

I have worked at some decent places, and have friends that have done the same. We would describe these as "professional"...but I am yet to encounter a school (other than internationals) that checks qualifications...

[munkijism]

So how many "professional establishments" are there in Thailand?

C'mon mate, its impossible to know that off hand, there are a few I'm sure.

And "professional" by who's criteria?

I think professional by having some sorts of standards and measures. By not employing anyone just coz their white would be a good start. With regards to recruitment meeting the expectations of the MOE and checking paperwork would be a start.

[torbek]

I think professional by having some sorts of standards and measures. By not employing anyone just coz their white would be a good start. With regards to recruitment meeting the expectations of the MOE and checking paperwork would be a start.

So just the three establishments, then?

[bet]

Professional, now there's a laugh.

As almost every educational establishment in Thailand is here to turn a quick buck, where are the professional ones?

IMO the most professional, International Schools aside, would have to be the government EP's, just like the one I work on

Most of the other, private, bilingual/ep's are just money making factories.

[OhhhYouKnow]

So how many but I am yet to encounter a school (other than internationals) that checks qualifications...

That's a bit of a stretch. There are many, many schools that require the proper qualifications that aren't "international".

[torbek]

That's a bit of a stretch. There are many, many schools that require the proper qualifications that aren't "international".

Require them?

Certainly!

Check them?

No way!

Most wouldn't know where to begin (and that is not a shot at them...it's simply not that easy for a Thai to verify degrees), even if they were so inclined...

[OhhhYouKnow]

We'll just agree to disagree. My school is not international and they check all of this for their foreign hires. I just can't believe we're alone.

[torbek]

We'll just agree to disagree. My school is not international and they check all of this for their foreign hires. I just can't believe we're alone.

Maybe your school is one of the three?





Seriously, though...how do they go about checking the degrees?

[crew]

Seriously, though...how do they go about checking the degrees?

I doubt other schools do it this way, but at mine, they get the latest foreign do-gooder to google the school in question. If the do-gooder deems it legit, the school sends the application on to the MoE. If not, the school challenges the degree and offers a "part-time" position. Part-time means, lower salary, no benis, no wp, no visa, no tl, and you're the first in line to get the boot when they find someone to replace you. Never mind the year-end bonus--they'll never last that long. I'm not kidding about this.

[defender]

I doubt other schools do it this way, but at mine, they get the latest foreign do-gooder to google the school in question. If the do-gooder deems it legit, the school sends the application on to the MoE.

Let's hope the MOE are more scientific in their approach - otherwise every teacher here need worry!

[soijetcornergirl]

Maybe your school is one of the three?





Seriously, though...how do they go about checking the degrees?

Here's one way:

http://www.registrar.arizona.edu/verifications.htm

[LDMA]

Well that's Arizona University covered....

[bet]

If not, the school challenges the degree and offers a "part-time" position. Part-time means, lower salary, no benis, no wp, no visa, no tl, and you're the first in line to get the boot when they find someone to replace you.

And also breaking the law to boot, and perhaps liable for deportation should the authorities come knocking.

It seems that schools like yours are the problem here.

[munkijism]

most degrees in the lsat few years can be verified online. its people who graduated years ago that haev difficulties. This is particuarly pertinent in the Uk where many of the old polys ceased to exist in the late 80s making it impossible to track your degree

[soijetcornergirl]

Well that's Arizona University covered....

Try reading more closely. It will come to you what it is all about.

Here's the short version if you can't be bothered:

www.degreechk.com