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    Re: More Raids on Schools? - Jan '07

    Quote Originally Posted by munkijism
    check what I wrote mate I said proffessional establishment, I didn't say rich school. they are certainly not always the same thing.
    So how many "professional establishments" are there in Thailand?

    And "professional" by who's criteria?

    I have worked at some decent places, and have friends that have done the same. We would describe these as "professional"...but I am yet to encounter a school (other than internationals) that checks qualifications...
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    Re: More Raids on Schools? - Jan '07

    Quote Originally Posted by torbek
    So how many "professional establishments" are there in Thailand?
    C'mon mate, its impossible to know that off hand, there are a few I'm sure.


    Quote Originally Posted by torbek
    And "professional" by who's criteria?
    I think professional by having some sorts of standards and measures. By not employing anyone just coz their white would be a good start. With regards to recruitment meeting the expectations of the MOE and checking paperwork would be a start.

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    Re: More Raids on Schools? - Jan '07

    Quote Originally Posted by munkijism
    I think professional by having some sorts of standards and measures. By not employing anyone just coz their white would be a good start. With regards to recruitment meeting the expectations of the MOE and checking paperwork would be a start.
    So just the three establishments, then?


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    Re: More Raids on Schools? - Jan '07

    Professional, now there's a laugh.

    As almost every educational establishment in Thailand is here to turn a quick buck, where are the professional ones?

    IMO the most professional, International Schools aside, would have to be the government EP's, just like the one I work on

    Most of the other, private, bilingual/ep's are just money making factories.

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    Re: More Raids on Schools? - Jan '07

    Quote Originally Posted by torbek
    So how many but I am yet to encounter a school (other than internationals) that checks qualifications...
    That's a bit of a stretch. There are many, many schools that require the proper qualifications that aren't "international".

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    Re: More Raids on Schools? - Jan '07

    Quote Originally Posted by OhhhYouKnow
    That's a bit of a stretch. There are many, many schools that require the proper qualifications that aren't "international".
    Require them?

    Certainly!

    Check them?

    No way!

    Most wouldn't know where to begin (and that is not a shot at them...it's simply not that easy for a Thai to verify degrees), even if they were so inclined...

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    Re: More Raids on Schools? - Jan '07

    We'll just agree to disagree. My school is not international and they check all of this for their foreign hires. I just can't believe we're alone.

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    Re: More Raids on Schools? - Jan '07

    Quote Originally Posted by OhhhYouKnow
    We'll just agree to disagree. My school is not international and they check all of this for their foreign hires. I just can't believe we're alone.
    Maybe your school is one of the three?





    Seriously, though...how do they go about checking the degrees?

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    Re: More Raids on Schools? - Jan '07

    Quote Originally Posted by torbek
    Seriously, though...how do they go about checking the degrees?
    I doubt other schools do it this way, but at mine, they get the latest foreign do-gooder to google the school in question. If the do-gooder deems it legit, the school sends the application on to the MoE. If not, the school challenges the degree and offers a "part-time" position. Part-time means, lower salary, no benis, no wp, no visa, no tl, and you're the first in line to get the boot when they find someone to replace you. Never mind the year-end bonus--they'll never last that long. I'm not kidding about this.

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    Re: More Raids on Schools? - Jan '07

    Quote Originally Posted by crew
    I doubt other schools do it this way, but at mine, they get the latest foreign do-gooder to google the school in question. If the do-gooder deems it legit, the school sends the application on to the MoE.
    Let's hope the MOE are more scientific in their approach - otherwise every teacher here need worry!
    Excuse me for not taking this seriously .....

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    Re: More Raids on Schools? - Jan '07

    Quote Originally Posted by torbek
    Maybe your school is one of the three?





    Seriously, though...how do they go about checking the degrees?

    Here's one way:

    http://www.registrar.arizona.edu/verifications.htm

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    Re: More Raids on Schools? - Jan '07

    Well that's Arizona University covered....
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    Re: More Raids on Schools? - Jan '07

    Quote Originally Posted by crew
    If not, the school challenges the degree and offers a "part-time" position. Part-time means, lower salary, no benis, no wp, no visa, no tl, and you're the first in line to get the boot when they find someone to replace you.
    And also breaking the law to boot, and perhaps liable for deportation should the authorities come knocking.

    It seems that schools like yours are the problem here.

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    Re: More Raids on Schools? - Jan '07

    most degrees in the lsat few years can be verified online. its people who graduated years ago that haev difficulties. This is particuarly pertinent in the Uk where many of the old polys ceased to exist in the late 80s making it impossible to track your degree

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    Re: More Raids on Schools? - Jan '07

    Quote Originally Posted by LDMA
    Well that's Arizona University covered....
    Try reading more closely. It will come to you what it is all about.

    Here's the short version if you can't be bothered:

    www.degreechk.com

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