Stopped smoking .... so easy !? - Page 4 - Ajarn Forum

Eric C · 16th August 2007, 20:45

I'm still on the wagon, think today is 6 or 7. Went with cold turkey myself, the doc I saw didn't want to discuss Quomem just told me to stop NOW, heh. I've been around some smokers now and have had a puff or 2 after some drink but did not enjoy it. I know I'm still vulnerable to relapsing so maybe I'm walking a fine line there but I want to condition myself to be comfortable not smoking around people that are.
It's such a dirty habit when you get away from it and see it from the outside. Smokers' clothes, apartment, mouth, everything smells bad.
Will look out for that dream tonight or tomorrow then

Fat Bastard · 16th August 2007, 23:11

Jusat had my second night on the beer only 3 bottles of leo, drank w two friends that smokewasn't really tempted, wouldn't give them thesatisfsction of seeing me start again, now more than 5 weeks

jaidee · 16th August 2007, 23:25

congrats to the max man.. you deserve a green from me! I am still struggiling.. one damn day! and it suxs for me.. but i am damn proud of you! keep it up!

ajarnsomeday · 18th August 2007, 05:11

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Originally Posted by erwin64

Chok dee .... btw I didn't notice any side effects of the Quomem .... until recently, after about 6 weeks, they were actually so bad I had to stop taking them. Anyone else had similar experiences?

I think the generic version in the States is Welbutrin Erwin, I tried it for a day and couldn't take it - more mental than physical though, it was originally sold as an antidepressant.

I'm setting the quit date for tomorrow all, this thread has been a great motivation. Been smoking since 14 (32 now), quit for 4 years in between.

Be back in a week, hopefully with good news!

Thanks

Storekeeper · 19th August 2007, 12:59

Great to hear about people who successfully quit the nasty habit ... I've done it before for 5 years then started up again 7 years ago ... finding it difficult to quit this time.

Classic-Chassis · 23rd August 2007, 08:53

just stop doing it, it's easy.....the only reason you smoke is so you can feel like a none smoker feels all the time.

Eric C · 24th September 2007, 00:21

I fucked up the last couple of days mainly thanks to a major bender Thursday night but, I'm back on track today. Before that I was doing really well for a couple of weeks.
I notice that now even when I relapse (for a short time) it's easier to stop. One or two cravings then I forget about it.

How is everyone else doing?

LDMA · 24th September 2007, 00:25

Fell off the wagon the night I went to BKK...was back to 5 a day for a week then stopped for another 3 weeks, then got pissed at the Buzz one Friday afternoon, and had another bad week. I've now been off 9 days and counting.

Classic-Chassis · 24th September 2007, 15:00

went out, got pissed, smoked a few caffe creams, mainly because they smell so good (still taste shit though) and i''d been thinking about them for ages.
woke up next day felt guilty as........... and was coughing the black shit out. i will not smoke any type of tobacco product for the rest of my life.
after six months i hate the smell when someone smokes near me, i hate the smell of someone who has just smoked a ciggy, enough to have the urge to tell them to move the.........away.
i really hate it when i'm eating and someone lights up...............i can't believe i've been so selfish for so long while i was a smoker.

erwin64 · 25th September 2007, 21:51

nice to see how many try to stop after the start of this thread .... I'm quite proud of it :-), I'm afraid I'm not as proud on my own efforts. Although I did very well at first I started smoking again after I had to stop the Quomem (yes wellburtin in the us, Zyban in Europe) because of it's side effects. Luckily I became rather sick a while ago which forced me to stay in a hospital for over a week, result .... didn't smoke for 3 weeks now, this time without medicine, but I must say I still long for them now and then. Anyway, congratulations to all of you doing so well and more power to all of you doing not so well.
As they say on the web site staying clean is easy, just NTAP (never take another puff)

Cyrille · 26th September 2007, 16:45

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Originally Posted by erwin64

nice to see how many try to stop after the start of this thread .... I'm quite proud of it :-), I'm afraid I'm not as proud on my own efforts. Although I did very well at first I started smoking again after I had to stop the Quomem (yes wellburtin in the us, Zyban in Europe) because of it's side effects. Luckily I became rather sick a while ago which forced me to stay in a hospital for over a week, result .... didn't smoke for 3 weeks now, this time without medicine, but I must say I still long for them now and then. Anyway, congratulations to all of you doing so well and more power to all of you doing not so well.
As they say on the web site staying clean is easy, just NTAP (never take another puff)

I guess that's the problem of giving up with the aid of a 'medicine'. Stop taking the medicine and that's where the real hard work begins.

I gave up 3 years ago with the aid of Allen Carrs book 'The Easyway To Give Up Smoking' This worked for me in a similar way as this website seems to have worked up to a point for you.

I'd get through a night on the booze and tabs and read a chapter (he recommends you keep smoking until you finish the book). I did that for about a month.

Then after I quit I'd re-read a chapter whenever I got in after a night on the booze (I'd been smoking only when I drank alcohol for years - but doing it very heavily on drinking sessions)

The first two or three nights out were tough, then that was it. I'd quit and I wasn't going to throw away the hard work.

Carr's approach is basically no holds barred - he paints a merciless picture of smokers as well as of tobacco.

I'm not having a go at you erwin, and I understand what you mean, but read Carr's book and you'll realise that comments like 'luckily I got sick and had to stay in hospital, so I couldn't smoke' exhibit classic 'smokers logic'.

'I can't give up now as I'm under too much stress' is another one. Have you ever seen a smoker who looked less stressed than a non smoker?

As I said, I'm not criticising you - I used to use 'smokers logic' too, of course. It just sounds as if Carr's book could work for you. You need to see smoking as what it is: a highly dangerous delivery method for a highly addictive drug.

Classic-Chassis · 27th September 2007, 12:58

^ I used his book as well TBH, if you look at the smoking habit with the books or his view of the habit of smoking, it becomes a habit to look at smoking with that view. (if that makes sense).
The bottom line of the book is "the only reason you smoke is so for short time while your body isn't craving for nicotine you feel like a none smoker. " This bit has stuck in my mind and every time i see a friend or stranger light up it's what i think of. The only reason you're doing that is to feel the same as i do now.
I was sat in my car at a petrol station the other day and saw a Thai guy on a delivery bike pull up, he ran in the shop, bought a pack of klong tips, jumped back on his bike, helmet on and light a ciggy then rode off back into the traffic jam and car fumes to do his delivery, sat behind a bus breathing in the black shit from the bus and smoking....how sad is that? The people i feel most sorry for are the ones lined up in multi story car parks, all of em sat looking like a guilty row of children.
Smoking ciggies, sat next to ash trays full of dog ends and greenies which even dirtier smokers have decided it's O.K hock up there phlegm into the ash tray for other less dirty smokers to view while the enjoy their ciggy.
All of em puffing away on ciggies, while it's difficult to breath anyway because of all the car fumes in the car park. Sad or what?
I used to ask my wife to stand inside and wait while i joined that guilty looking line of smokers breathing in car fumes, while I pretended to enjoy choking on a ciggy, and think nothing of it..........................lovely.

CupidStunt · 19th October 2007, 05:54

I have not smoked for 4 weeks now, not killed anyone yet

ScorpioPower · 19th October 2007, 10:02

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Originally Posted by erwin64

Hi,

I know there have been some threads about this before, but I just want people to know. If it can help even just 1 person...it's been a good thread.

I started smoking cigarettes when I was 13. I am almost 43 now, so ... 30 years.
Tried to stop a few times before .... didn't work.
I've been using lots of other poisoning and addictive stuff but was also able to quit the habit when it was really needed .... just those cigarettes, I never managed to quit them.
At the moment I didn't smoke for 3 weeks, so I know, I still have a long way to go, but I never believed I would get where I am today.
And the strange thing is.... it was not even difficult!! I am not saying you should do it my way, or my way is the best or whatever, ... no, I just want you to know how I did it!

1) Prepared myself by reading http://whyquit.com/ (!!! )
2) Started to take Zyban 2 weeks in advance
- In Thailand sold under the name Quomem -
3) After two weeks I just stopped.

Of course I felt the urge to smoke sometimes, but actually quit seldom. The medicine took away my lust for cigarettes and the web site with very good articles about the effects of nicotine helps me to stay motivated.

I hope this may help some of you out there who would also like to quit.
Actually, all you have to do is ..... NTAP
( Never Take Another Puff ) :-)
Erwin64

I'm 40 in about 2 weeks and have no intention of smoking after my b'day.

How much do Quomem cost and can you drink beer on them?

Also, can you just buy them over the counter or do you need a doc's prescription?

Cyrille · 19th October 2007, 15:33

^ But read the thread scorp - erwin went back on the weed.

Not the answer IMO.