jimbo

Tae Kwon Do - 2 years in US.

Hapkido - 2 years..Korea.

Jujitsu (Classical and "Viarnis") in Saudi (Amer. Instructor) 2 years.

I like to mix systems, though currently I am a bit out of the mix!...a bit out of shape and less-than-practiced.

I hope to take-up "Aikido," or possibly "Judo," after my injured foot is healed.

I DO NOT like to get hit, IE; boxing. I'm much more interested in defensive styles, and thus avoiding "hits."

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reinvented

goju ryu karate 1st Kyu-(one before black)out of practice now though
ninjutsu 1st kyu
aikido 5th kyu- studied in Japan
boxing- off and on since 12, but not competetively
muay thai- a bit but too old now

some good teacheres in bangkok

i dont think you ever let go of your first style, but there are only so many ways to throw a punch after all

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Loxley

I think that whatever styles I try will probably be through the eyes of a wing chun practictioner....I get the feeling that once you have mastered one style, its quite easy to learn another system....the thing that confuses me is that at the end of the day, which style will occur naturally in a live situation?

Hapkido : is that a soft style?

As for defensive styles...well you could be defending until the point that you run out of energy or the other guy gets lucky....look into wing chun mate, just see what you think

We dont do blocks, we counter, which means to simultaniously defend and attack in a single action...very direct and energy efficient...especially good for old timers that dont want to piss about

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Michael J

I did - a long time ago in a gal.. - Mugendo, which is a form of kickboxing for about 2 years. It had the same principal you were writing about. Rule 1. Don't get hit. Rule 2. Never forget the first rule. So it was all about attacking and getting in to positions to attack. I really miss martial arts but I'm just to busy now Maybe 1 day I'll try to take up Muay Thai as it looks cool as fcuk.

As for street fighting my Sensei used to always say that because you don't know what the other guy knows - fight dirty! Eye gouging, biting, anything. If you can, just a swift side kick to the knee = broken kneecap, game over.

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Loxley

Our kicks are leg breakers...the key is to kick at a cutting angle where the opponent would move with the force and have to go down or stand their ground and get a broken leg....that should even things out a little if they are twice your size

Wing Chun rules/principles

• Use entry technique
• Attack the opening
• Trap the leading elbow
• Attack the opponent's balance
• Pin the arms from the blind side
• Control the opponent's blind side
• Use the centre line to force the opponent to use the outside path
• Keep moving
• Don't present a steady target for your opponent
• Be calm, have confidence in yourself, let your reflexes guide you
• Use elbows in close quarters, use palm or fist in the next distance, use kicks with front foot for further distance, use the rear foot in furthest distance.

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Michael J

That's what I like about Muay Thai. Shown superbly by Tony Jaa in Ong Bak / Warrior King.

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Loxley

his use of dropping the elbow into the top of the forehead inspired me no end

loads of his work on you tube

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jimbo

My jujitsu master used to hypothize that if ALL martial artists were gathered in a large room to fight it out.... the Muay Thai guy would walk out. Tho K1 always seems to be Brazilian Jujitsu.

That is: Muay Thaiists can TAKE hits!!! ...so if you're up for taking hits (lots of em) Muay Thai could be for you.... Not for me, tho it gets ALL my respect.

Hapkido = soft (??)....hmmm fair question, tough to answer directly. Lots of wrist twists, using energy of the other against himself.

I always called hapkido; gymnastics meets judo meets wrestling.

As far as what works for the street(?) I can only go by my experiences.., my instructor for Viarnus-jitsu took classical jujitsu and transformed it to a street-art. It includes, knife/broken bottle/gun attack <<defensive positions.

Beyond that...anything with 'grappling" seems pretty street-wise, tho my master would advise against ever allowing yourself to get in that position.

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kingwilly

My sifu would warn about trying to mix styles, his analogy was that you didnt take the drive train out of a Porsche, add the gear box of a Ferrari and the engine of a Ducati bike and expect it all to work!

Meaning a system is a system for a reason, it all works together.

Having said that he made us learn lots of stuff from other styles, not to use, but to learn, recognize and be able to counter attack. eg: Wing Chun doesn't use spinning back kicks, but I know what they look like now, and a simple little forward front kick to the top back of your opponents thigh during excution stops them dead!

Karate - 2 years
Brazilian JuJitsu - 2 years
Wing Chun - 15 years.

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jimbo

^ wanna fight?

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kingwilly

:p dont panic, I'm old and fat now!

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jimbo

555555...join the club! I'm the prez!

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kingwilly

^ hehehe! yep. but i still have some old pics of when i was a lean mean fighting machine! well, me son has them now!

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Loxley

Jing jing mate...most systems (WC especially) are complete and holistic in themselves

what im getting at when I say "finding yourself" is learning about how your own body/energy can work and assessing your own strengths and weaknesses...and I suppose getting an insight into what you could be up against

I would say im about 10 years away from completing the system, thats if im to do it properly...ah well, keep on slogging away....progress can seem so slow sometimes
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The level of conditioning in MT is a definite advantage...and I would agree that they are fighting machines, whereas the rest of us are merely normal people with a lot of skill

I would say that such skill is for life...and Thai boxers tend to burn out or injure themselves and beyond repair.....also, they are only as strong as their weakest point, i.e. the neck, and it only takes one strike

Respect to Muey Thai though....throughly love watching it

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