Spain has "Chinese eyes" - Page 3 - Ajarn Forum

stfranalum · 15th August 2008, 20:20

Media Matters

^ media watchdog group.

keep me remembering that there are folk out there who actually give a shit.

them, and ronald mcdonald.

he always comes through

fencesitter · 16th August 2008, 09:19

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i can go to a park, and worship anything and anyone i choose. i can post blabber on the net, as i choose. i can publicly disagree with the government- anytime i feel like it. permit not included. ...so the point you made in large part, id agree, the west has sold out to corporations. the easy life. but china it aint. and it wont ever be like that. we're a long long ways off from being a closed society.

Yes, you can go to a park and worship anyone you choose. You can publicly protest against the government. Can you get unbiased news reports from American media? I think not.

What scares me about America and the west is the fact that some in the government (American) are blaming their economic problems on China. When, in fact, most of the problems are being caused at home..."made in the USA." Our democracy is under attack by right-wing (often militant in idealogy) neo-conservatives. We are moving away from a pluralist society to one of protectionism. Pluralism and the Enlightenment are so vital to our liberty and freedoms.

I have to go now so I cannot continue my arguement...maybe later.

Matthew · 16th August 2008, 17:57

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Can you get unbiased news reports from American media? I think not.

I don't know. Ever listen to Pacifica? Ever ducked into an IMC? What do you mean by "media"? Commercial TV?

News on commercial TV is just part of the commercial programming. Very very close to....a commercial!

Magazines, newspapers...the articles and the advertisements have been blending for years.

Plenty of non-commercial media out there though. By media I mean communication/information...

America contains multitudes, it's difficult to generalize...if you've ever lived there you'd understand!

fencesitter · 17th August 2008, 09:43

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Ever listen to Pacifica?

Yes. That is one of the only true sources of news in the states. I enjoy democracynow.org with Amy Goodman. The problem is...so many Americans are absolute meatheads....so they probably don't know much about anything...let alone where to get unbiased reporting...sad state of affairs.

kenkannif · 18th August 2008, 11:48

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i can go to a park, and worship anything and anyone i choose.

You can also carry a gun in Disney Land/World mate...now is that a good thing?

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i can post blabber on the net, as i choose.

Well....if you maybe put that you planned to bomb a US building....you might hear a knock on your door!

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i can publicly disagree with the government- anytime i feel like it. permit not included.

Depends how you disagree mate....might also hear the knock on your door as per above.

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...so the point you made in large part, id agree, the west has sold out to corporations. the easy life.

but china it aint. and it wont ever be like that.

I really hope not mate

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we're a long long ways off from being a closed society.

Well you are kind of closed in the monetary sense mate...rich getting rich and the poor getting poorer