Teaching in the UK - Page 2 - Ajarn Forum

torbek · 15th February 2007, 12:36

As my subjects are economics, business studies, and legal studies I am hoping (optimistically, probably) that I might be with a bunch of students who aren't too recalcitrant.

I also have Masters in my field and 20 years practical experience..so I'm also hoping that counters any age bias.

But I certainly need to find out more before I consider it a "done deal"...
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Originally Posted by Nemo.

I may be ok as have higher quals and want to work in Public School system - and I want the QTS to work in international schools.

Same.

kingwilly · 15th February 2007, 12:41

actually mate, you could quite feasibly get into an international school in europe and/or asia without any experience. The standard by-line is you need between 2-5 years experience, but being in the right place at the right time with a decent resume qualifications could laid you a decent job......

Just something else to consider....

peelieorion · 15th February 2007, 12:47

Agree with many posts good and bad jobs in the U.K. what i will say is you definetely learn how to manage kids and class management in the U.K. Yes its tough and Thailand is a breeze compared to it but still issues of bevaviour management and styles of teaching you learn equip you well for teaching here. Saying that the paperwork is a nightmare and government tinkering can be a pain in the arse. Know many Aussie teachers who on the whole have adapted well and have loved the experience. But as I said before all comes down to the school and the vision and dedication of the teachers.

omlagus · 15th February 2007, 13:54

defender.......any luck? I've registered with them today, and this was the link they gave me.

http://www.tda.gov.uk

I've just tested the link and it works.............................

Rumpole · 15th February 2007, 14:33

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Originally Posted by torbek

As my subjects are economics, business studies, and legal studies I am hoping (optimistically, probably) that I might be with a bunch of students who aren't too recalcitrant.

With those subjects you may be able to get a job at a Sixth Form college, or at least teaching 'A' level (or whatever they are called this week) students. Many years ago, I tutored a small group of Sixth Formers in 'A' level law, and they were an absolute joy. Polite, bright, and highly motivated. Not your average UK teaching gig, of course, but I'm sure such students still exist.

Welshman · 15th February 2007, 14:40

I tend to agree with most of what has previously been posted on this thread about state schools. Feral brats, the law stacked against you, being beaten up in the classroom by agitated parents - it's all been said.

I taught at a college of FE. I don't think it was quite as bad as a state school though a good proportion of the students I encountered were beyond redemption.

With your subjects you could probably get a position in an FE college, if you really are bent on state education but be prepared for big letdowns - depending on the area you go to.

This link is the place to look for jobs. It'll give you a good idea of geographic and financial ranges too. You can filter searches to look for everything from junior, through to HE (Unis) and even private, language centres and jobs abroad.

http://www.tes.co.uk/

paully · 15th February 2007, 18:21

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Originally Posted by Forrest

I had a great job in the UK....

...Teaching A-level politics in a large govt secondary school in Cornwall, my classroom look out to sea and up onto Dartmoor.

You can be very choosy at the moment in the UK... if you pick carefully you'll get a cracking job.

Exactly. There are some decent teaching jobs in the UK still, if you look around, ask around and - as always - you have a little bit of good fortune.
I'm teaching in the UK now, Torbers, at a sixth-form college so just A level students. I teach History and Law and it's quite fun but lots of preparation. Yes, there's lots of paperwork which everyone hates, but you kind of expect that these days. What type of students do you want to teach and where in the UK? PM me if I can help at all.

insideleft · 15th February 2007, 18:37

I've been in London for most of the last 2 years...doing social work...

Spoken to several Australian teacher's who have all been appalled at the poor resources available to the kids at the schools they've taught at...

The people in the UK are generally prone to act like their Viking ancestors, often for what seems to be the slightest afront...

Torbek...without doubt, please contact the Teacher Registration Board in the UK (Something like to General Teachers Council), it is this body that will register you...without professional registration, it is against the law for you to teach or be hired to teach...

This can be a very drawn out process, so the earlier you begin the better...

You will need a current criminal background check for Oz also...

Child Protection is the flavour of the month in the UK...this country is so regulated by statutes, regulations, policies you will be stiltified...the amount of surviellance the average citizen undergoes is frightening...

Ed

johnboy123 · 15th February 2007, 19:08

The problem you have is you're jack of all trades and master of sod all.

I'll sponsor your trip just to get rid of you.

Forrest · 15th February 2007, 22:27

look on www.tesjobs.co.uk

most govt and pvt school jobs are advertised here

phuketbound · 16th February 2007, 05:26

I taught in a middle public school in England on a six month contract. I would advise you if you possibly can to apply directly to the schools that you are interested in, other than applying to an agency.

Be very wary of any agency that you go through. There are some good ones but, there are some not so good ones as well. Thoroughly research what type of school you are going to!! Visit the school in advance if possible, and talk to other staff members.

My school was outside of London and it was a very rough school. My friend worked in London proper in a high school, and had it twice as bad as me. She was told to Foff all the time, and had the worst time ever. Good Luck!

Forrest · 16th February 2007, 08:42

Agree with Phuketbound completely...

...there is absolutely no need whatsoever to use an agency.

You get so much more protection if you are employed by the school based on the fact that you are actually being employed by the government.

mig · 16th February 2007, 10:07

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Originally Posted by GeeCee

Why don't you come to Australia for experience? You won't have those problems and WA is screaming out for teachers....They have just employed 150 OS teachers to fill the gaps.

Do you have any link for teaching job ads. in Oz GeeCee? I’m looking to go back to the UK but it may be better in Australia.

My_Kow_Lope · 17th February 2007, 19:51

Why so much negativity about teaching in England? A REAL TEACHER can teach anywhere.
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Originally Posted by DaiHard

After having taught in the UK for a number of year I've watched the system go down the toilet. Unless you work in a private (called Public) school like Eton or Rugby then most likely you'll be swamped by masses of paperwork, an inflexible curriculum, extreme political correctness, a management that will happily sacrifice you to save their own butts, long hours and, worse, undisciplined feral kids. It has been recently ranked as the most stressful job in the country and just below a policeman in the likelihood of getting seriously assaulted (one woman teacher was recently raped by a 15 year old in her own classroom and it was her that ended up in court).

There is a shortage of teachers for reason. My advise, choose something else, you'll easily get work (and a wp) in the hospitality trade in London they just love Aussies.

Well done you've convinced me. Now what to do after I finish my PGCE next year?
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Originally Posted by paully

Exactly. There are some decent teaching jobs in the UK still, if you look around, ask around and - as always - you have a little bit of good fortune.
I'm teaching in the UK now, Torbers, at a sixth-form college so just A level students. I teach History and Law and it's quite fun but lots of preparation. Yes, there's lots of paperwork which everyone hates, but you kind of expect that these days. What type of students do you want to teach and where in the UK? PM me if I can help at all.

Nice post Paully. Informative and right on the money as always.

paully · 17th February 2007, 20:01

^ Thankee kindly, My Kow

How is your/ your g/f's applications for the PGCE going? Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier.