Becoming a 'real' teacher in England - Page 2 - Ajarn Forum

defender · 23rd November 2007, 04:35

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Originally Posted by Jon

Yeah, check out the link by LDMA above.

Eh?

SageAndOnion · 23rd November 2007, 08:23

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Originally Posted by defender

Are you saying that the OP will have to do a PGCE before he starts his teacher training? Either way it's a very misleading post

I think it is pretty clear. You have to have graduated in order to do a post graduate course in anything. Not that you have to complete the course before training. Read more carefully or I will have to beat you.

Jon · 23rd November 2007, 10:48

oh yeah, so sos, def

my mistake

jonniethai · 23rd November 2007, 12:15

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Originally Posted by wildbill

I have been thinking for a while about training to become a 'real' teacher back home after working in Thailand as a ESL teacher for nearly a year.

I don't want to teach English though and was thinking of maybe Design Technology or Business Studies. (The subject I studied at University.)

I know I will need to do teacher training, (one year is it?) but I only have a HND too. Will I need to complete a one year degree top-up before the training? Also, what exactly does the training involve and how much does it cost?

Finally, what sort of money can a new teacher expect to earn? Someone said its 21,000+. Sounds good to me!

Believe me £21k a year is nothing. Stay where you are, England is no fun. Freezing cold, expensive and alot of tax and expenses every month.

Regards

defender · 23rd November 2007, 13:44

Yup that's it, I'm sure you'll make lots out of life earning 35k Baht a month before being thrown on the scrapheap with no retirement plan

jonniethai · 23rd November 2007, 13:51

Or should i have said go to the Middle East or anywhere where it is better money and zero tax, then you can save for your retirement.

Regards

defender · 23rd November 2007, 13:57

And look forward to a booze-free life where your Mrs is afraid to leave the house

jonniethai · 23rd November 2007, 14:01

haha, aye sounds terrible doesnt it.
But we will do anything for money right?
That should be a new thread hehe.

All the best.

Well · 23rd November 2007, 14:40

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Originally Posted by defender

I'm sure you'll make lots out of life earning 35k Baht a month before being thrown on the scrapheap with no retirement plan...

exactly.

paully · 23rd November 2007, 15:19

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Originally Posted by jonniethai

Or should i have said go to the Middle East or anywhere where it is better money and zero tax

With only an HND?

Jon · 23rd November 2007, 22:56

£21 K is just the bottom line...with tefl experience etc you can start higher...and it goes up every year up to £30 K or so just for classroom teachers and that's a well liveable salary in many parts of the country. If you make a carreer of it you can go much higher if you want. 13 weeks paid holiday a year too.

Cyrille · 25th November 2007, 17:31

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Originally Posted by defender

And look forward to a booze-free life where your Mrs is afraid to leave the house

Not here, matey.

defender · 28th November 2007, 16:49

Well I don't know Cyrille. I'd like to work in Oman I think, but the rest of the desert doesn't really interest me. I find camels are very overrated!

In any case (and I won't go into all my personal details here - please PM) it is very possible to get teacher training without taking the "traditional route" here. I have been back in the UK just ten days and have already landed a pretty good job in a school for the next two terms, the school will then support me through a Graduate Teacher Program from next September. With any luck I'll be a fully-qualified secondary maths teacher within 18 months!

Don't listen to folks who say, you need to do this or this ..... do a search for "EBITT providers" (Employment Based Initial Teacher Training) in your area and call somebody up and ask them - it's their job and the rules/possibilities are changing all the time!

Jellybean · 28th November 2007, 16:55

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Originally Posted by defender

"EBITT providers" (Employment Based Initial Teacher Training)

We have something like that in Aus too, or did a few years ago.

kiwiling · 28th November 2007, 17:48

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Originally Posted by Cyrille

I've been teaching for nearly 20 years. I have a degree in English Literature, a CELTA, Trinity Diploma and an MA TESOL.

Cyrille I am sure that qualifies you as a "real" teacher anyway. Back home you can get credit for outside educational qualifications and the MA TESOL would cover everything in a graduate diploma I would think. The only overseas people at home who have to do the graduate diploma are those with no teaching qalifications at all.

NZ and Australia are interchangeable and the PGCE and Australasian qualifications are very similar so I think the British must have a similar system. Can somebody from the UK put me straight on that?

Also as for the Celta I wouldn't mention that in the company of a Cambridge graduate...it may be more impressive to fart.