I posted on here a few months ago looking for information about Taiwan. People shared some great information, and now I'm finally ready to make the move after 3 years in Bangkok.
I applied for my Visitor's Visa to Taiwan this morning, but I'm a bit concerned that I might not get it. The woman at the counter was not very friendly and asked a lot of prying questions.
Sadly, I never was able to get legal while in Thailand and therefore have a passport full of visa exemption stamps, Cambodian visas and Thai tourist visas. She was very interested in this and asked a lot of pointed questions.
As I'm 24 years old and still plan to return to university (probably distance learning), I wrote on the application that I was a student. She asked to see a student ID card, which of course I didn't have.
She also asked why I wished to stay in Taiwan for 60 days when I could have 30 days on arrival without a visa. I explained that I was thinking about studying Mandarin next year and wanted to look at some schools around Taiwan.
Finally, I did bring my latest bank statement from the US showing a balance of $2,600.
For anyone who's been through this before, what are my odds? Will I get the visa?
You'll get your visa if you are white.
Standard protocol at the embassy is to treat you like poop.
I overstayed a visa, lied on an application in Hong Kong for a new visa, got yelled at by the office lady and still got a visa to get bach in!
3 years in thailand without getting legal........hope you don't get a visa for taiwan and don't get another job in Thailand, must be something wrong with you as a teacher if you can't get legal ....
Daniel Bedingfield claimed that his new album is what it would sound like if Sting, Stevie Wonder and Micheal Jackson were in a basement together - I haven't got the album so I'll have to imagine the sound of a blind bloke and a Geordie kicking the shit out of a pedophile.
You're an asshole, cream. I wasn't able to get legal because I only have an AA and a CELTA. This is enough to teach legally in Taiwan, but not in Thailand.
However, I am probably the best teacher I know. Qualifications don't mean much, especially here. Plus, I much prefer the freedom of working freelance. I earn more money than most full time suckers and have the ability to choose the classes I want in the locations I want.
Thanks again for the advice, Steveo. You were right, I got the visa. I'm planning to head to Taichung, where I've already lined up a job. Know anything about this place?
Wow, Cream. I was just looking back at some of your other posts and discovered you don't have a degree! You know what that means? It means your not legal either! And you never can be legal, until you get that degree!
Next time examine yourself before you insult others.
Last edited by barfomcgee; 26th October 2007 at 22:00. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
"I am...the best teacher I know."
But maybe not the most modest, chai mai?
"A man has got to know his limitations."
Yeah fair enough Ben. Maybe not the best, but one of the best to be sure. Maybe that says a lot about the kind of people I know, eh?
Well my friend I have 6 diplomas that is 6 times 2 year studies.....didnt quite take that long XD, I have never ever said I have a degree and I have no shame in that, but I AM legal, sorry if you have a real reason for working here man, just that i've found it's easy to become legal here in thailand.
Again sorry if you could of become legal but didn't, i'm not an asshole btw but i do enjoy being assholded when it comes to booze
Cream, it is not techinically possible to teach legally in Thailand without a degree. In some government schools outside of Bangkok, you may be able to work around it. In Bangkok, it is 100% impossible.
I don't know what visa you have or what your school is telling you, but I can assure you that you are not teaching legally if you don't have a degree. If you don't have a degree, you cannot get a work permit. If you don't have a work permit, you cannot teach. It's that simple.
Even if you somehow managed to get a non-O visa, that visa does not permit you to teach. You still need to have a teaching license, which you cannot receive unless you have a degree.
See where I'm going with this? Sounds like your school lied to you.
You're 100% wrong! There is a teacher at my school with no degree with a work permit. There was a little drama at first concerning whether or not they could get a work permit, but they did. This is in Bangkok, BTW. Some schools will try harder to get their teachers legal.Originally Posted by barfomcgee
Nope you just didnt find the right school to set you up. Several posters on here have AA's and a Celta or TEFL and have work permits and visa's. Working in Bangkok, Samut Prakan, and Pratum Thani that I know of.Originally Posted by barfomcgee
Too long in Exile, too long not singing my song.
Too long like a rolling stone, Too long in exile
Too long in Exile, baby you just arent my friend.
Too long in Exile my friend, Baby you can never go home again.
Where did you get the misinformation that you do not need a degree in Taiwan? I think the answer you have gotten is wrong, as I interviewed with a school in BKK and they told me that EVERYONE HAS A DEGREE, who teaches in Taiwan.
They would know....wait a minute!.....Originally Posted by jama
sure it is...Originally Posted by barfomcgee
"so please show no pity as we come up from the ground, and please remember as you kill us and cut us down that time will not wash clean the bloody face of history, and someone will breathe here again and they will hate you for what you leave." m.g.
From Buxiban.com, but also from many other sources:Originally Posted by jama
In order to be able to meet the government's requirements for legal employment as a foreign English teacher you need to:
- Be a Native English Speaker from a native English speaking country
The Taiwanese Bureau of Education recognizes the following listed countries as English-speaking countries. Listed countries include Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, South Africa, United Kingdom and the United States.
- Have Minimum Tertiary Education Requirements
Teachers must meet one of the following standards to meet the Taiwanese Bureau of Education's minimum educational requirements:
- Bachelor's degree in any discipline OR
- Associate's degree with a TEFL / TESOL Certificate. The Bureau of Education does not recognize any other form of certification including diplomas, unless you can prove from your school that what you have studied is the equivalent of a Bachelor's degree.
I have to say I'm a bit surprised by all the people stating that it's possible to teach legally without a Bachelors. I asked that specific question on this forum not so long ago and was repeatedly told that because of the latest crackdown it was impossible.
I was also under the impression that the only exceptions were in government schools with children and not in Bangkok. I got that impression from reading this forum.
it's possible.Originally Posted by barfomcgee
selectively?Originally Posted by barfomcgee
been reading people posting the above for quite some time...