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    Which is the best country to earn and save, teaching English?

    I've always fancied the middle east but I only have a CELTA and three years teaching experience (in the same school) so it looks like I don't meet the criteria very well.

    Which countries are looking good at the moment (currency and job market) for working as an english teacher and saving some serious wonga, I'm saving up to take a masters degree back in Europe and its taking forever on Thai wages.

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    Re: Which is the best country to earn and save, teaching English?

    Hey there,

    When you say you have a CELTA and experience, do you mean you don't have a degree? There is a massive recruitment drive on here at the mo. But I guess you do have a degree if you're going for a masters, right?

    The Middle East isn't the goldmine it once was, but you do get well looked after and don't have to worry about rent etc.

    If you have a degree, CELTA and experience I'm pretty sure you would find something in the UAE/Gulf.

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    Re: Which is the best country to earn and save, teaching English?

    Do you at least have an AA? An AA + CELTA is enough to legally work in Taiwan. It's pretty easy to earn $2-3k per month there, and the cost of living is similar to Thailand. I was there last year - even bought a car.

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    Re: Which is the best country to earn and save, teaching English?

    Quote Originally Posted by barfomcgee View Post
    Do you at least have an AA? An AA + CELTA is enough to legally work in Taiwan. It's pretty easy to earn $2-3k per month there, and the cost of living is similar to Thailand. I was there last year - even bought a car.
    $2-3K USD..... really? That seems high. I have no idea about Taiwan.

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    Re: Which is the best country to earn and save, teaching English?

    Quote Originally Posted by lemmax View Post
    $2-3K USD..... really? That seems high. I have no idea about Taiwan.
    The basic package there is NT$60k per month, which is slightly more than 60k baht per month. This is for 20-25 hours of teaching per week. It's pretty easy to find jobs paying more than this.

    Taking on extra classes easily puts you up to 70-80k; for a while, I was earning 85k per month, but teaching 34 hours per week. If you're willing to take a kindy job in the morning (say, 9-12), then a "full-time" job in the evening (usually 5-9), you'll easily earn 85-100k.

    Part time work is 600-700 per hour, and very easy to find.

    But I almost forgot - tax is a bitch there. The new law is that you must pay 20% tax for the first 182 days out of the year. You get back part of that at the end of the year, so it works out to about 13% tax. Many employers are willing to under-report your salary to the govt so you'll pay less, but of course there is risk involved.

    But I almost forgot - tax is a bitch there. The new law is that you must pay 20% tax for the first 182 days out of the year. You get back part of that at the end of the year, so it works out to about 13% tax. Many employers are willing to under-report your salary to the govt so you'll pay less, but of course there is risk involved.
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    Re: Which is the best country to earn and save, teaching English?

    buying a car in taiwan is so much cheaper than Thailand. we're talking 1/4 price for a used car.

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    Re: Which is the best country to earn and save, teaching English?

    Hey steveo, haven't seen you around in a while. You were a tremendous help to me when I was making the move to Taiwan - thanks again.

    Cars are much cheaper. I bought a Ford Telstar for NT$27k. Drove it for almost a year, all over the island, and never had any problems.

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    Re: Which is the best country to earn and save, teaching English?

    Hey bar, happy to have been some help. Where'd you end up? I forget!

    I still have some friends in Taoyuan, miss the place sometimes.

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    Re: Which is the best country to earn and save, teaching English?

    Which is the best country to earn ?
    switzerland right ?
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    Re: Which is the best country to earn and save, teaching English?

    Quote Originally Posted by JolieFolie View Post

    The Middle East isn't the goldmine it once was, but you do get well looked after and don't have to worry about rent etc.

    If you have a degree, CELTA and experience I'm pretty sure you would find something in the UAE/Gulf.
    Can't speak for the rest of the M.E., but Kuwait salaries have gone up in the past few years. Easy place to save $$.

    Just saw an ad on Dave's two days ago for EFL teacher needed in Bahrain.

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    Re: Which is the best country to earn and save, teaching English?

    Quote Originally Posted by steveo View Post
    I still have some friends in Taoyuan, miss the place sometimes.
    I started in Fengyuan and moved to Taichung. There were good and bad things about the place - I enjoyed my year there but probably would have gotten bored if I'd stayed any longer.

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    Re: Which is the best country to earn and save, teaching English?

    Quote Originally Posted by kingdomcome View Post
    Can't speak for the rest of the M.E., but Kuwait salaries have gone up in the past few years. Easy place to save $$.

    Just saw an ad on Dave's two days ago for EFL teacher needed in Bahrain.
    How easy is it to save money in Kuwait? What is the cost of living like?

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    You can save money in Korea if you try. There are also opportunities to work privates (even though they are illegal). The won isn't what it once was, but if you live frugally, you can save $1000 dollars a month. I have saved $1000 dollars a month over the last four months. Korean food is cheap, and you can cut corners to save. Transportation is cheap, and your employer pays for your airfare, and rent. All you have to pay is your utilities, and a maintenance fee ($30-60), per month.

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    Re: Which is the best country to earn and save, teaching English?

    Quote Originally Posted by phuketbound View Post
    How easy is it to save money in Kuwait? What is the cost of living like?
    If you're not in the malls, shopping every weekend, saving $ in Kuwait is very easy. Your only real expense is food, which is similar to prices in supermarkets, here. Seafood is dirt cheap and obviously plentiful.
    Once you've settled in, it's easy to bank 70 % to 80 % of your salary. Saved well over a mil baht my first year there, and that was on a much lower salary.

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    Re: Which is the best country to earn and save, teaching English?

    Quote Originally Posted by kingdomcome View Post
    If you're not in the malls, shopping every weekend, saving $ in Kuwait is very easy. Your only real expense is food, which is similar to prices in supermarkets, here. Seafood is dirt cheap and obviously plentiful.
    Once you've settled in, it's easy to bank 70 % to 80 % of your salary. Saved well over a mil baht my first year there, and that was on a much lower salary.
    Thank you! Are privates illegal? I have heard many people still teach privates there.

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    Re: Which is the best country to earn and save, teaching English?

    Hmmm. If I lived frugally I could easily save $1000 per month living and working in Bangkok. Bugger that. Impossible to live frugally at the moment anyway with truck and motorcycle payments and the 2 bdr townhouse off Sathorn I stay in. This will eventually change as the vehicles get paid off. At that point $500 per month will be a breeze. Now I can save about $300/month and live quite comfortably.
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