Or get the impression that I left at the right moment.Originally Posted by LDMA
What a balls-up! These people couldn't find their asses with two hands and a road map.
Unless you are so entrenched into Thailand (married, kids, business, etc.) it might be time to seek better-paying pastures with less bullshit to avoid.
I'm glad I did.
Did he/she happen to say where he/she got that information?
If he/she is Thai, what do you think the answer is?
What really annoys me is that the MOE think it will attract professional teachers with the salary that most schools offer and far more importantly with the unqualified, disorganized, money grubbing dross that passes for administration in most schools.
If Thailand really wants to improve its education system put decent school administrations in place first.
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MoE Head Office, the changes are connected to the Sourthern uprising,
:: Ministry of Education ::
^i didn't realise Kabul was in Thailand..
The number of students and teachers killed in Taliban attacks tripled last to close schools and force teenage boys to join the insurgent group, Afghanistan's education minister said.
Education Ministry number point to a sharp decline in security for students, teachers and schools over the past year. The number of student out of class because of security concerns rose from 200,000 to 300,000,while the number of closed rose to 590 from 350 the year before-a 69 percent increase
I don't know. That's why I asked the question, as it's the first report I've read indicating any kind of distinction between native and non-native English speaking teachers and the ongoing teacher licensing drama.
Why would it be a troll threadI'll call the bluff of the OP and say it's a troll thread.
We'll see Organised Chaos rear her ugly head in the near future and start a supply and demand thread, again.
Any poster who associates themselves with the Piss Train, lacks credibility in my books.
We were told of this a few days ago and I was wondering if anyone else had heard the same, which zehner and a few other posters have pointed out they have.
This doesn't concern government school teachers as they are within the system only concerns Private Language center teachers or teachers who have a teachers' license.
For real?This doesn't concern government school teachers as they are within the system only concerns Private Language center teachers or teachers who have a teachers' license.
I didn't know that, so if one works in a govt school then it is still up to the school to decide if they want to be bothered with this bit of extra paperwork...
Tidy!
Who is as wise as the wise man?
Who is more foolish? The fool, or the fool that follows him?
Not at all, as government school teachers have never needed to obtain a TL it's only been teachers in private language centers that have had to.
A TL is a little blue book very similar to the work permit.
As it was no teacher has needed this when teaching at a government school but who knows the future.
As private language centers aren't within the schooling system the first thing a teacher needs is this TL, no TL, no work permit or visa.
As for the New TL or whatever it is regarding teaching at a government school or private language centers I'm yet to find out 100% what is happening, as there are many different things going around, which we've all read about on this and other Threads in the paperwork forum.
Sorry to burst the bubble. The new TL will be required for gov, private, language center, vocational ed, and 'higher education not granting a degree.' These all used to be granted under different offices in the MoE, administered locally. Now it's one centralized location, and one standardized set of criteria.
You can run, but you can't hide; except in the uni.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
How do you know all of this?
Will the old kind of TL still be the same or will it change 100%?
Took the Culture Course. The sections on the law and procedures and ethic were done by the head of the Teachers Council. In the law, it's pretty specific about who it applies to...everyone except uni teachers.
And before you get too bent, this law and the licensing aspect applies to Thai teachers as well. The only thing a Thai national is exempted from is the culture course.
By 'old kind of TL' I guess you're talking about the blue book. My guess is it's going away. Turn it in for a new license if you meet the criteria, or hang on to as a momento if you don't. Call the Teachers Council and ask them for sure.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
I figure stall them as long as possible. Don't see the point of doing the course if there's a two-three year grace period.
Why bother. Wait until D-Day. That's my attitude anyway. Three years in Thai bureacracy can be a very, very long time.
If you're being run out of town, get in front of the crowd and make it look like a parade.
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That's what I was thinking, but our admin can't be convinced. It's tricky when the farang knows more about Thai regulations than the Thai dude getting paid to sort all this stuff out.
I think the length of the grace period is a little iffy right now. Three years supposedly started when the law went into effect in 2003. More than likely it actually started when the initial license apps (remember the 500 baht?) were submitted in 2006-2007 school year. That's when they had the defined criteria for foreign teachers, including the culture course.
I'm not a Thai bureaucrat or lawyer. But on the anecdotal side, I know degreed Thai teachers who have been doing their weekends at the local rajabaht to get through the alternative certification course, and have heard of a farang (gov school) getting the word on "last extension without a license" from Migra in a South Central office about 2 weeks ago.
Up to you.
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This is a major shake-up to the educational bureaucracy. All the little local fiefdoms are being cut out, and there's one set of rules for everybody. It all goes against the grain of business-as-usual.
Anybody really surprised that Thai admins are reluctant to embrace change, or that it's unthinkable that anything less than a full-blown crisis can move them off of the river De-Nile and into action?
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