Cheers Stamp......that should make him happy...
* I now have my work permit. Issued by my 'local' labour office in Chaiyaphum.
* It was issued on the strength of my non-imm 'O' (marriage) visa 1 year multiple entry.
* Did not need to show the labour department people my marriage certificate - they were not interested.
* My work permit has an expiry date on it which is the date 12 months after the date it was issued. According to my maths it is therefore valid for 4 and a half months after my contract of employment ends!
* I have also been reading up on the legislation to which I think it was Stamp posted links. Thanks for those links by the way - being able to see the legislation in English has been very helpful.
As you will know from my earlier posts, my intention was to continue to leave and re-enter Thailand every 90 days so my wife and I could have a little holiday every 90 days. An added advantage of those little trips - which I did not mention before - is that my employer pays my expenses when I make these trips. They cost me nothing - my petrol, hotel cost for one night, THB1,500 re-entry fee, and food and drink for one night is all covered by my employer. (Did I mention I like my employer a lot?).
Anyway my reading of the legislation is that if I should so choose I could also apply for an extension of stay at my local immigration office, so that I do not need to leave and re-enter every 90 days. I may try this option next time my current 90 day stay period expires - just so I have experience of doing things this way. My current 90 period ends very soon and I am thinking of having a little trip to my 'local' immigration in Khon Kaen (there is none in Chaiyaphum) in the next few days, just to talk my options over with them before deciding what I do. I'll update this thread with news of what happens when I know myself.
Last edited by TopCat; 10th October 2012 at 21:35.
Good on you, TopCat.
Honestly, TopCat, that's a mistake! A work permit cannot exceed the duration of the employment contract.Originally Posted by TopCat
Yes you're right it's definitely a mistake. They made the same mistake with my colleague too!
When he went along to immigration at Khon Kaen for extension of permission to stay, using his single entry non imm 'B' visa they mentioned there was a problem with the expiry date of his work permit. But there were no frantic phone calls to the Chaiyaphum labour office. They simply used the end date of his contract as the end date for his permission to stay.
(EDIT IN: Incidentally, if I do decide to apply for an extension of permission to stay, I will go down the 'working as a teacher' route, and not the 'married to a Thai' route. My reading of the legislation is that I can do that, even with my non imm 'O' marriage visa, as long as I can produce the documentation required under the legislation -which I can).
Last edited by TopCat; 10th October 2012 at 23:17.
William Money says he gets his 12 month multi-entry Non-Imm O based on marriage in Savannakhet as they don't require proof of funds there.
I presume it would be the same for your mate, if he has any issues in the future.
Guy Manpoof sux nuts for $$.
Tomcat trained. Satisfaction guaranteed.
"THB1,500 re-entry fee..."
TopCat, with a multiple entry visa there isn't a re-entry fee. Your visa, as long as it's still valid, allows an entry for 90 days.
You only need a re-entry permit if you are on an extension or a single entry (original) visa.
"Although I could easily get a retirement visa instead or bring money into the country to satisfy the means testing..."
I think there might be a misunderstanding of the requirement for financials.
If you want to extend for marriage you can use either 400k in the bank, or 'income'. If you choose to use income, you verify that with a letter from your embassy. There is currently no requirement to bring that 'income' into Thailand.
If you extend for work, your visa ends the same day your job ends. If you are married, it's a simple thing to get a 60 day extension from immigration to stay with your wife. That gives you time to sort out other options.
Terry
Again PP...cloud cuckoo land....You don't work for the Nation do you?........My visa is obtained right here in BK...sufficient funds allow me to do this....However....the guy I went with was able to do as you say....
"...cloud cuckoo land....You don't work for the Nation do you?........My visa is obtained right here in BK...sufficient funds allow me to do this..."
You are getting an extension of your 'permission to stay', not a visa.
Terry
Just to be clear Terry...You're saying that my non-O 1 year multiple entry visa...is not actually a visa?....
Oh right, 'The Guy' was able to get the 12 month visa without having to show funds... not you... 'The Guy'.
All clear.
---Update---
A 1 year multi-entry visa? Working in Chula?
Yes you're right. I erroneously called my THB1,500 Laos entry fee a Thai re-entry fee. At Nong Khai it costs me THB1,500 when I leave Thailand and enter Laos.
---Update---
Not sure how you can show 400K in the bank without having 400K in the country. My money in the UK is in £Sterling in the bank in the UK, not in THB.I don't recall hearing of people getting a letter from their embassy to confirm how much they have in the bank in their home country - and I know I would not want to share that information with the British embassy in Bangkok.
Are you quite sure that if immigration give me an extension of stay that my visa will end on the day my job ends? As I understand it the period of extension of stay will end when my job ends. But that is not the same as my visa ending. Because my current one year non imm 'O' visa expires approx 2 months after the date my job ends.
As I see it, if immigration grant me an extension to remain in the country beyond the end of my current 90 day period, they will grant that extension to the date my contract of employment ends. When my contract of employment ends I will then need to leave and re-enter the country to trigger a further 90 day period of stay using my current visa. I can do this because my visa will remain valid for a peiod of 12 months from the date it was issued and my contract of employment ends before the 12 month period covered by the visa ends. This is one of the things I intend to discuss with immiration before I apply for an extension of stay.
In any event I already know what I will do when my current one year visa expires. I will return to the UK for a holiday. While on holiday in the Uk I will apply for another 1 year multi entry non imm 'O' marriage visa. At the end of that holiday I will return to Thailand. I will be offered a new teaching contract with the same agency, probably teaching at the same school, and start the work permit (renewal) process at the Thai end. Then I will either apply to immigration for permission to extend my stay, or go on border runs and enjoy my short breaks away.
Incidentally I use the non imm 'O' marriage visa because the main purpose of my visit to Thailand is to spend time with my wife and daughter here at our house. Teaching here is something I do to help keep my mind and body active and to pay the bills but I could get by without it. Teaching and working in Thailand is not the main purpose of my visit to the country; nor is tourism.
Last edited by TopCat; 11th October 2012 at 13:10.
What?....You want his name...his wifes name...the hotel we stayed at...pictures....the spot where I stopped the car for him to puke his guts up?...
Yet again...the bar of stupidity lowers itself.....Just to be clear...You're saying that I can't work for Chula on a non-O...1 year...multiple entry...'permission to stay' visa.......
Where did I say that?
I know people working for Chula on concurrent 15 day VoA stamps (extended for 90 days based on visiting wife). No Visa at all. Not even a Tourist Visa!
'permission to stay' visa?
What on Earth is one of them? A 'permission to stay' stamp?
Here...
Dunno...
"Just to be clear Terry...You're saying that my non-O 1 year multiple entry visa...is not actually a visa?...."
You are still on a visa if you are leaving the country every 90 days and returning with another 90 days.
If you are extending in Bangkok, that sounds like an extension. Immigration extends your permission to stay regardless of what visa you originally started with.
"Not sure how you can show 400K in the bank without having 400K in the country. My money in the UK is in £Sterling in the bank in the UK, not in THB.I don't recall hearing of people getting a letter from their embassy to confirm how much they have in the bank in their home country..."
There are two ways to meet the financial requirement to extend for marriage.
400k in a Thai bank, verified by your passbook and with a letter from your bank. If you didn't earn the money here, then yes, you'd need to bring the money into the country. That's not what I'm talking about.
The second way to meet the financial requirement is to show that you have 40k a month 'income'.
If the income is from working here, it's verified by tax documents.
If the 'income' is from abroad (such as a pension) it has to be verified by a letter from your embassy. There is no requirement to bring this money to Thailand.
"Are you quite sure that if immigration give me an extension of stay that my visa will end on the day my job ends? As I understand it the period of extension of stay will end when my job ends. But that is not the same as my visa ending. Because my current one year non imm 'O' visa expires approx 2 months after the date my job ends."
If you extended for work, yes, I'm sure. If you extended based on your marriage, then you don't have to leave right away and your permission to stay is good until whatever date they gave you.
After re-reading your post, you might be in a fairly unique situation.
If the multiple entry visa has not expired, you might be able to get 90 days from a border run, but I wouldn't count on that.
Most peoples visa has been long gone by the time their work ends.
"This is one of the things I intend to discuss with immiration before I apply for an extension of stay."
!!!
"I know people working for Chula on concurrent 15 day VoA stamps (extended for 90 days based on visiting wife)."
Since many nationalities are not eligible for a (VoA) Visa on Arrival, are you really meaning visa exempt entries? 15 days by land and 30 days by air?
What kind of extension is person getting that gives them 90 days for visiting wife? That would normally only be 60 days, and not available for back to backs.
"'permission to stay' visa? What on Earth is one of them? A 'permission to stay' stamp?"
That's the date stamp they put in your passport when you enter Thailand.
They give you 'permission to stay' until that date.
Terry
---Update---
WM, that is a single entry Non O visa. The 'permission to stay' is not found on a visa. It's the date that immigration gives you when you enter the country.
"...cuz Terry said so......."
WM, sarcasm aside, once you understand the basics of this, it's not so difficult.
Terry
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