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    Quote Originally Posted by The Perfect Present View Post
    Hey, Stampers will be able to come over
    And you?.....Why not....The three jing jingos...In search of that elusive 1 year non-o multiple entry document....

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    Yeah, sure. I'll bring over a Glenfiddich, ye supply the steaks, and we can have a bit of a sing song.


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    Sorry for the length of this post. It’s another update. I’ve tried to cut out all the dreary stuff about arguments over bits of documentation and me having to drive around all over the place to get those bits of paper and signatures on them. (There’s a long way between my home, the immigration office, the office of the agency that employs me, and the home of the school director).

    Well I paid a visit to the immigration office. 3 visits actually over 2 days. Each time I went I thought I had all the paperwork they wanted (all the supporting documents specified in Order 305/2551 anyway) but each time I saw them they remembered something new they wanted.

    On my 3rd visit I was getting very exasperated and started to speak a bit more loudly to the official. I started to wave my copy of Order 305/2551 at him and pointed to paragraph 2.6. He told me they have their own requirements at his office (I fought the urge to laugh out loud). My wife intervened. She spoke nicely to the immigration official in Thai and explained how I had been given the run-around and had driven almost 1000km backwards and forwards between home, the immigration office, the office of the agency that employs me, and the home of the school director – to try to get extra documents and signatures on things every time I was told of a new requirement. He took pity on me and agreed to extend my period of stay even though I did not have all the papers he said he wanted.

    (Incidentally, in case it helps anyone else, additional paperwork they asked to see included:

    • A form called a ‘Form Of Employment Certification’;
    • A copy of my university degree; and
    • My contract of employment).



    The stamp now in my passport says they have granted an extension of stay until 16 September 2013. Considering all the fuss they made about the documentation this extension date seems very odd to me because I now have:


    • extension of permission to stay until 16 September 2013;
    • a contract of employment that ends on 15 March 2013;
    • a work permit which is valid until 31 July 2013 (separate department, I know, but another document with what seems to me to be an incorrect date).
    Anyway I suppose I shouldn’t complain about that extension of stay. Not a bad result I reckon.

    It leads me on to another couple of questions for this thread:

    1. The stamp they put in my passport says “To keep your stay permit re-entry permission must be made before leaving and notification of residence must be made every 90 days.” I’m going back to the UK in March 2013 for a holiday. I’ll seek the re-entry permission before I go. Presumably that will mean I don’t need to apply for another one year non imm ‘O’ visa in the UK. instead I can just return to Thailand using the re-entry permission once it is granted - is this correct?
    2. Then, in September 2013 when the current extension of permission to stay is expiring, I can apply for a further extension (assuming I’m still teaching) – is this correct?
    Thanks.
    Last edited by TopCat; 15th October 2012 at 23:13.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopCat View Post
    extension of permission to stay until 16 September 2013;
    a contract of employment that ends on 15 March 2013;
    a work permit which is valid until 31 July 2013 (separate department, I know, but another document with what seems to me to be an incorrect date).
    Odd indeed. Everything should have been based on your employment contract.

    Quote Originally Posted by TopCat View Post
    The stamp they put in my passport says “To keep your stay permit re-entry permission must be made before leaving and notification of residence must be made every 90 days.” I’m going back to the UK in March 2013 for a holiday. I’ll seek the re-entry permission before I go. Presumably that will mean I don’t need to apply for another one year non imm ‘O’ visa in the UK. instead I can just return to Thailand using the re-entry permission once it is granted - is this correct?
    Buy a re-entry permit and your extension of the permission of stay will stay void. The 90 days Immigration is talking about is the "Notification of staying longer than 90 days in The Kingdom of Thailand". Not related to the source of your permission of stay. If you leave the country within the 90 days window, no notification has to be made. The moment you enter the country again, the 90 days counts from the date of entry.

    Quote Originally Posted by TopCat View Post
    Then, in September 2013 when the current extension of permission to stay is expiring, I can apply for a further extension (assuming I’m still teaching) – is this correct?
    Correct.

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    Hoop jumping.

    The funny thing is that none of them actually know what they require so just make stuff up.

    Remember it's Thailand, where nothing, absolutely nothing is set in stone.

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    Thanks for your answers Stamp. Not sure I properly understand the one about what could happen when I go back to the UK in March. So can I just check I understand you correctly. Are you saying:


    1. If I apply for another non imm 'O' visa when I am in the UK I will void the existing permission to stay.

    2. I should obtain permission to re-enter from immigration before I leave. That re-entry permission will be the same as having an entry visa in my passport.

    3. Assuming 2 above is correct – the 90 day clock stops ticking while I am out of the country, then starts ticking again when I re-enter the country. But when it starts ticking again it starts from zero – so a fresh 90 day period starts.


    So basically go and have a chat with immigration before I return to the UK. Ask them to put another stamp in my passport that will allow me to re-enter Thailand without affecting or cancelling my current permission to stay in the Kingdom. Then no need for me to get another visa when I am back in the UK. Yes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopCat View Post
    1. If I apply for another non imm 'O' visa when I am in the UK I will void the existing permission to stay.
    You don't have to apply for a new visa. Just apply for a re-entry permit and your extension of stay will stay valid until 16 September 2013.

    http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/download/tm8.doc

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    3. Assuming 2 above is correct – the 90 day clock stops ticking while I am out of the country, then starts ticking again when I re-enter the country. But when it starts ticking again it starts from zero – so a fresh 90 day period starts.
    Correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by TopCat View Post
    So basically go and have a chat with immigration before I return to the UK. Ask them to put another stamp in my passport that will allow me to re-enter Thailand without affecting or cancelling my current permission to stay in the Kingdom. Then no need for me to get another visa when I am back in the UK. Yes?
    Correct.

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