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    3-4 year olds L2 Aquisition

    There is nothing more spectacular, in terms of seeing language being picked up than to see a 4 year old child born of two fairly well-educated Thais, but who speaks nothing but Thai accelerate above and beyond their English capabilities in the space of 6 months, no classes, just immersion in the culture.

    My wife has got a friend here in the UK who came over with her daughter to live with her Thai husband currently doing a PhD here. They speak only Thai at home, but she watches UK TV. She's not even at school yet, but her ability to communicate in English has gone from understanding a tiny bit but not able to speak (in March), to full blown understanding and conversational ability (August). She now speaks English as her social language with my daughter (who has never been too hot at Thai) and will probably not need ESL attention when she gets to primary school this month, and is almost fully bi-lingual. Really inspiring to see.
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    Re: 3-4 year olds L2 Aquisition

    id say the opposite

    seeing a 40 year old man lose the ability to communicate in any language beyond pigeon after but 1 night down nana
    spectacularly stupid that is

    kids pick it up quick, we dont unfortunately
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    Re: 3-4 year olds L2 Aquisition

    Quote Originally Posted by LDMA View Post
    There is nothing more spectacular...
    oh come now...

    the grand canyon? the pyramids? aurora borealis? songkhla monkey mountain?
    "vast and black. the thing that was poised, like a crow over the moon. round and smooth. cannon balls. things that have fallen from the sky to this earth. our slippery brains. things like cannon balls have fallen, in storms, upon this earth. like cannon balls are things that, in storms, have fallen to this earth. showers of blood. showers of blood. showers of blood. " c.f.

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    Re: 3-4 year olds L2 Aquisition

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    Re: 3-4 year olds L2 Aquisition

    Quote Originally Posted by reinvented View Post
    id say the opposite

    seeing a 40 year old man lose the ability to communicate in any language beyond pigeon after but 1 night down nana
    spectacularly stupid that is

    kids pick it up quick, we dont unfortunately
    I'm not 40!

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    Re: 3-4 year olds L2 Aquisition

    He was being nice old timer.
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    Re: 3-4 year olds L2 Aquisition

    Come on, get serious, the post is very interesting. I similarly knew an expat who had a bar in Pattaya in those halcyon days of early tourism. His boy was about 5-6 years old and ran around with a bunch of Thai kids all chatting away in Thai. What do young kids have that we don't? Question for a philosopher of epistemology I think - Any of that rare breed out there?

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    Re: 3-4 year olds L2 Aquisition

    ^ A sponge like brain mate.....also not full of superfluous (sp?) shite like ours!!!

    Also they're not always aware that they're doing that 'learning' thing.

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    Re: 3-4 year olds L2 Aquisition

    You're dead right there Ken. I can't even remember where I put my car keys let alone learn a language!


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    Re: 3-4 year olds L2 Aquisition

    Remember how we learnt to speak our mother tongue ?

    Listening to others all around us,radio (in my youth) T.V.,movies cartoons the list is endless,then imitating what other input all around was saying,with help from others we learnt, that's how kids do it,kids don't need too much formal input.
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    Re: 3-4 year olds L2 Aquisition

    Several years ago when I had a Chinese wife we brought her 7 year old Son to Australia ....The only English words he knew was my name and MacDonalds .
    Through the influence of the games I played with him ,TV , computers and freindly Aussie kids he ended up Duxing his class at the private school I sent him to ( except sport)

    All this within six months of arriving



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    Re: 3-4 year olds L2 Aquisition

    Sorry to hear it did not work out for you.
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    Re: 3-4 year olds L2 Aquisition

    ^^ bitches, can't live with them, can't live without them, bitches
    get some Hairy Lemon in ya

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    Re: 3-4 year olds L2 Aquisition

    Quote Originally Posted by re_fuse View Post

    His Mum is a bitch
    Is that the same bitch you married?
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    Re: 3-4 year olds L2 Aquisition

    Yes it is nice to see a kid excel .. in anything.

    Since language is symbolism, and since children are drawn to symbols, it really doesn't seem to matter what language the kid has partially mastered, there's plenty of room for another. An object or action or concept having a score of different names attached to it is not difficult for someone under six or seven to accept. I know that in many bilingual households where the hubbies and wifies are void of the others language, the kids simply learn what words work with daddy and which are for mummie, too young to realize what bilingualism is. Too kool tho! Language is a beautiful thing and so are children. Nice they get along so well.

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