My local guys are great. Even has a couple of females too.
They all know my name and where I usually wanna go, and via which particular route avoiding main roads.
I'm reading this book about Thai culture that Matthew turned me on to. It's quite good and explains things that I think even a seasoned ex-pat may not fully understand.
I've had some poor experiences with motercy taxis and have tended to avoid them but this chapter has changed how I feel. I thought others here might find it interesting so, with the help of my friend Jean reading, I've transcribed it. No permission from the author of course, TIT, but hopefully it will help sell some books for him. Cost is only $995 Baht and it'f full color phots on every page.
Excerpted from: Very Thai, by Philip Corrnwel-Smith
Motorcycle Taxi Jackets
Hopping on a bike to beat the traffic
The unsung heroes of Thailand’s battle with traffic, motorcycle taxis are a very Thai response to a universal problem. Flitting between jammed cars with knee-hyphen endangering speed, the motercy is the one sure way to make an appointment. Perhaps with your next life.
Most shuttle customers up and down soi with as many as 100 taxi-bikes gathering at each soi mouth, known as a win. A sartorial symbol of street life, their seua win - zipped sleeveless vests in neon-hued nylon - is a uniform with surprising value. “A glamorous evening gown may be worth less than the weather-beaten tag of a jacket,” report Wassayos Ngamkham and Manop Thip-osod. “That’s because drivers must pay protection money to the mafia types that run motercy taxi queues.” Originally of multiple colors and bearing names of businesses or politicians, a jacket costs a joining fee of anywhere from 4,000 - 100,000 Baht. Drivers also pay around 15% of their 4-500 Baht daily earnings, enabling win mafia to extort 1.2 billion Baht a year.
“The win owner then pays the police up to 30% - 40% of his earnings” explains Piak, who drives on a win of 16 without an owner. “At the end of the month we each put 100 Baht in the kitty and present it to the police station. It’s just our way of building good relations.”
Prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra made win reform the opening salvo in a ‘war on dark influence’, a policy to open the black economy to control - and tax. All 114,452 Bangkok motercy taxis from 4,324 win had to register with the Bangkok Metropolitan Authority by June 2003. The small annual license fee gets them a numbered orange seua win bearing a reflector and the location.
Before the scheme could be applied nationally, non-standard jackets re-appeared and driver revealed they still had to pay the mafia. The fixed limit of jackets also faces challenges as the city expands and transport patterns change. The SkyTrain and subway increased demand for bike shuttles. But bikes may face competition from new narrower electric tuk-tuk and cheaper tricycle pedal carts with seating under a huge umbrella.
At a win, each bike makes about 50 - 70 trips per shift for a profit of 3-400 baht after fuel, excluding repayment on their bike. Small ranks may work up to 12 hours though most have a 10 hour day shift and a shorter night shift when fares are slightly higher and win fees lower. Fares reflect distance and the wealth of the neighborhood with a premium for heavy loads, side trips and foreigners. Only a few drivers have second jobs but some get more lucrative work as salaried couriers.
Companionship, joshing and games enliven the wait until their turn to drive is indicated by chalked-up numbers or ignition keys hanging on a series of hooks. Some sew fishing nets, read comics or help at the nearby stores. And others dose on narrow benches under ragged plastic shelters, head resting in a colleagues lap. Many play the Thai version of checkers.
Everyone squats around an eight-by-eight board scored into old wood or chalked on the pavement, using bottle caps as counters and doubtless making the occasional bet. To keep going they swill energy drinks and scoop iced water from a lidded tub using a shared metal cup.
There’s more to win style than the jacket. Amulets cover the dials, sacred string wraps the steering column and their jacket number may be a ‘lucky’ one. Stickers, unmuffled exhaust and multi-colored bolts are secular ways they customize the bike. Usually Japanese bikes now include the Thai brand Tiger. Leathers, knee-pads are unheard of in this humidity, so protective clothing runs to long sleeves and trousers to keep the sun from darkening the skin. Footwear is typically flip-flops worn with socks, sweater and anorak in winter when the wind chill factor dips below 20º.
A few don surgical masks and bandanas in a vain attempt to block fumes. Women passengers often press handkerchief to nose and hold aloft something to shade them from the sun, while teetering side-saddle, toes brushing truck tires. Sitting cupped behind the driver runs the risk of incurring ‘eau de seua win’ cologne.
Helmets also offer a scope for self-expression. Despite safety laws however they are hardly ever worn in soi, almost never upcountry and often get left unfastened on Bangkok highways. Aside from the expense and cramp on freedom, their simply too heavy and hot. Instead of wing mirrors inconveniently clipping cars as they zigzag through jams, the mirrors can be folded inwards to create a handy helmet-rest while riding. Some perch a helmet above their face, lending them the profile from Alien. If brand names like Safetymet or Ladymet aren’t sufficiently hip riders sport helmets with horn like spoilers, blue visors, or stickers perhaps to cover cracks. A few don Nazi style helmets complete with swastika. To be safe helmets should fit snugly, but the spare ones for passengers generally have the strength of a plastic salad bowl. Commuters who bring their own helmet arouse nervous laughter. It’s a loss of face for the win and besides accidents only happen on Karma’s command.
Each win suffers 1 or 2 scrapes a week, while bikes account for the large majority of road injuries and especially of fatalities. The government introduced cheap personal accident insurance premiums of just 1 baht a day as one of it’s poverty policies. Insurance might reduce the tendency of drivers causing an accident to flee the scene in an act of conflict avoidance. Truckers and car drivers have been known to drive back over an injured motorcyclists to prevent them being a witness or a cripple they’d have to compensate.
Resistered win drivers are elegible for training just as well; pathologist Vira Kasantikul found that only 0.1% of motorcyclists involved in accidents had passed a driving course. While car, bus and truck drivers break road rules too, they get fined far less than bikes, partly because they may have influential connections.
Motercy collect like a swarm of metal hornets at red lights then zoom off speedway-style. Scary at 50 kmh this primal thrill intensifies at 140 kmh at illegal speed duels for cash, pride or girls in cities like Had Yai and Chang Mai. Late at night Bangkok’s ring road (dubbed Ratchadaphisek Racetrack) draws spectators, gamblers, groupies and competing crews of charity ‘body collectors’. Police may chase or impede boy racers who lie flat on the seat ‘when they hit the ground they’re already horizontal quips a letter to the Bangkok Post’. Thais call the illegal motorcycle racers malaeng wun (flies) because of the way they buzz around - loud, irritating, erratic and dirty” writes Philip Blenkinsop in The Cars That ate Bangkok. “They also happen to die like flies”.
In this substantially two-wheeled society, there are few organized motor racing outlets, aside from Tycoons' Harley-Davidson club. Circuits, courses and training could create new sport-biking role models, just as licenses increase respect for the bike taxi profession. So far, though, win reform dwells more on how they impact others-insurance, training, nice jackets-than on win welfare. Just as police get comfy traffic booths, win need shelter, seating, water, toilets, fair treatment, and safe affordable helmets. After all like the high-tech trains they connect, motorcycle taxis are modern mass transit.
Follow the three R’s: Respect for self Respect for others and Responsibility for all your actions.
--Erma Bombek
My local guys are great. Even has a couple of females too.
They all know my name and where I usually wanna go, and via which particular route avoiding main roads.
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Thou shalt not mess with another mans sloth.....
eric, this is a really good book about thai culture.
'wondering into thai culture' by mont redmond. recommend it highly...
http://www.dco.co.th/product_info.php?products_id=165
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mine were too pat.Originally Posted by DJ Pat
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"so please show no pity as we come up from the ground, and please remember as you kill us and cut us down that time will not wash clean the bloody face of history, and someone will breathe here again and they will hate you for what you leave." m.g.
I like my motorcycle boys too. I used to take a motorcycle from Sukhumvit Soi 50 (On Nut) to Sathorn area to go to work when I was running late. 50 minutes by BTS - 20 by motorcycle. Now I live closer to work and take a 10 minute trip in by motorcycle. They are usually friendly and you form a kind of bond with the drivers you take regularly. Live or die together I guess...
...you get what you need.
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A copuple of mine even help me argue against taxi drivers who try to rip me off
my guys in songkhla got my wife out of a jam once...they took care of her and treated her well. not forgotten.
"so please show no pity as we come up from the ground, and please remember as you kill us and cut us down that time will not wash clean the bloody face of history, and someone will breathe here again and they will hate you for what you leave." m.g.
Dont cross them over then are brothers to each other. But you are right all of you. Once you get to my village. All you have to do is ask a security guard, house of the farang ajarn, or Thai's use where are the cute twins house. Most of them know now.
So much easier to go the Airport hotel how you like and take a motorcycle from there 25 baht. Same as 12 years ago. But most choose to go by taxi, and we end up in countless phone calls of my maid from Isaan, trying to tell the driver from Isaan where to go in Don Muang BKK~~All get here but its really so easy. My house and area actually lie on a grid.
Too long in Exile, too long not singing my song.
Too long like a rolling stone, Too long in exile
Too long in Exile, baby you just arent my friend.
Too long in Exile my friend, Baby you can never go home again.
Priceless!we end up in countless phone calls of my maid from Isaan, trying to tell the driver from Isaan where to go in Don Muang BKK~~![]()
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Follow the three R’s: Respect for self Respect for others and Responsibility for all your actions.
--Erma Bombek
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"It'd be the best gig around, if it wasn't for the f#*king kids!"
-Bozo the Clown reflecting on his career
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i must admit usually good sorts
can be moody
but once you are regular that stops
never argue price
first time i went from petchaburi mrt to my office 50 thb
next time 40
no discussion
10thb learning curve for good service
in my soi they come to play with my dogs and keep an eye out
good people
"I've got something in my front pocket for you.
Why don't you reach on in my pocket and see what it is.
There grab onto it - it's just for you.
Give it a little squeeze and say how do you do?
There's something in my front pocket!
Something in my front pocket! --"
Don't care for 'em myself. They have a bad reputation where I live (drugs, robberies and rapes). A student of mine - a local police honcho, told me to avoid 'em.
You have to be a little bit suicidal to use them.
Broke? Late? suicidal? Or possibly just can't be assed to sit around in traffic for 2 hours to do a 20 min trip lol. Most of my soi motorsi's are quite easy going but i've got a couple of guys I use regular that are utterly bonkers lol, love it myself![]()
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Among other things.Originally Posted by Eric C
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Or would you like to swing on a star?
sounds like an interesting book. motorcais are a various group.
some are very dependable. some are there for the cash.
some are "kee-mao".
Miles and miles to go before I sleep...
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