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Practicalities Of Living In Thailand Exactly what it says!
Where to obtain that creature comfort in Thailand or whether to bring it with you. Where to get the best service whether it be dentists, doctors, or lawyers.
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Old 16th February 2008, 23:26   #91 (permalink)
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Old 17th February 2008, 13:39   #92 (permalink)
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Yes, physiologically disabled people make up a larger percentage of the population than we think. Their disabilities aren't always visible.
I don't get what you mean here. We are talking about people with physical disabilities here. Peter is fighting for rights of people in wheelchairs. Keep up the good fight, Peter.
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Old 17th February 2008, 21:27   #93 (permalink)
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Any way... so as I said I went to Phuket this last week, and used Air Asia...

Departure from BKK was 25 minutes late... however departure from Phuket back to BKK was 17 minutes early...

No one told us that it was open seating.
Traveling with a visiting friend, we sought appropriate to seat next to each other and we were confident beacaus our seats were matching numbers... As soon as in the airplane we realized that we would not be seating next to each other.... all double seats were already taken!
We also opted to change our flight time on the return trip, and wanted to make a stop on Phi Phi island, that too was bad news... we couldn't reschedule our return flight!

First flight my seat couldn't recline... and the seat on my right was broken, the cousin was loose.... Then we had a smoke problem, the steward might have burn some plastic when warming up the food.... my eyes were etching - Honestly, I sought we were having a fire in the cabin crew!!!!
Both trips, the crew wasn’t courteous, and we might have been a little too courteous for the "service" that we received!
Too bad, we had a great time on Phuket Island, and those tinny jealous a-holes had to spoil it!


Ho! and we paid 11500 Baht!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for 2.
BKK - PHUKET - BKK.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!Thank you Air Asia - BUT NEVER AGAIN THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!
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I really like Air Asia. It's always a relatively short flight, so I like to save the 500-1000 thb over the competition. The hostesses are cutees; make no mistake. They are as on-time as any of the others. If bad weather hits--folks paying three times more will also be delayed.
One of the most popular airlines in the US (SWA) does not use boarding passes either. Having low limits on extra baggage keeps costs down for us more sensible people. Last time I needed a fishing pole; I rented one for 20 thb--of course, I could have purchased one at Tesco for 100 thb. Last time I flew TG, the box lunch kind of sucked.
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I really like Air Asia. It's always a relatively short flight, so I like to save the 500-1000 thb over the competition. The hostesses are cutees; make no mistake. They are as on-time as any of the others. If bad weather hits--folks paying three times more will also be delayed.
One of the most popular airlines in the US (SWA) does not use boarding passes either. Having low limits on extra baggage keeps costs down for us more sensible people. Last time I needed a fishing pole; I rented one for 20 thb--of course, I could have purchased one at Tesco for 100 thb. Last time I flew TG, the box lunch kind of sucked.
I need extra posts to be able to post pics........ so I will respond to this one...

- We paid 5750 Baht per person to fly from BKK to PHUKET, that ain't cheap.
- I can careless about the "beauty" of the hostess; I pay for competences and services.
- I like my flight to leave on time, not the sooner, not the later.
- Low limits on extra baggage have nothing to do with keeping cost down........ Trust me I am an expert in Logistics, they do it to save cubic/weight for cargo... travelers are just an excuse for advertisements... airline's money making is on cargo, under your feet...
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Well thank you Mister Big Bill.

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You paid 80 bucks to travel 2000 km by air, and all you can do is complain? It is ironic that you chose what is undoubtedly the most expensive destination in LOS. What were you paying for a small heinekin? 100, 120 thb. Did you visit the Synogogue while you were there?

I did a search of UAL's cargo revenue (largest airline in the World). One quarter, they had revenue of 4.38 Billion usd, making a net profit of 376 million usd. Their cargo revenue was a mere 215 million usd! How do you figure mister logistics expert?

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You paid 80 bucks to travel 2000 km by air, and all you can do is complain? It is ironic that you chose what is undoubtedly the most expensive destination in LOS. What were you paying for a small heinekin? 100, 120 thb. Did you visit the Synogogue while you were there?

I did a search of UAL's cargo revenue (largest airline in the World). One quarter, they had revenue of 4.38 Billion usd, making a net profit of 376 million usd. Their cargo revenue was a mere 215 million usd! How do you figure mister logistics expert?
My god, are you "the" borderline racist village's idiot?

- Phuket isn't 2000 Kms from BKK...
- I didn't pay 80 bucks but 185$ one way...
- I can flight from LA to Las Vegas for $99.99 hotel included...
- For 2007, UAL Corp. posted a pre-tax income of $695 million, are you on crack or ice with your 4.38 Billon within one quarter?
- Sky Team is the largest Airline Cargo regrouping: AeroMexico Cargo, Air France Cargo, Delta Air Logistics and Korean Air Cargo...
- It cost "nothing" to an airline to carry a box from point A to point B, it cost a bundle to move you mister... i.e. security, meals, drinks, seatings, AC, heat, services, waiting room, Airport tax, ... ... and pretty Hostesses...
- Checked out Fedex & DHL lately?

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Re: Air Asia Rant

OK, you are right about one thing; it is only 700 km from BKK to HKT. I've never been to Phuket--spending 100 per night on a hotel, and a dollar for a bottle of water isn't my idea of fun. The people I meet going there are generally DisneyWorld type travellers, who have no desire to get to know the real Thailand. Net income is NOT revenue--that is profit. UAL flies 3600 flights per day, even if every plane only had 100 passengers paying 100 usd each, that would generate 3.24 Billion in Revenue per quarter. Cargo is no more than 10% of revenue. Incidentally, cargo requires fuel and security screenings, as well. The people on the ramps are being paid good money. I have checked DHL, and it costs 45 usd to send a letter from BKK to Washington DC.

It sounds like you walked in off the street and bought a ticket at the counter--poor planning on your part. I went to the airasia.com website yesterday and they had tickets from CNX to BKK for 40 thb (taxes about 550). I have flown NOK, and while it was nice; I will go for the one where I can save my dinero.
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I've never been to Phuket--spending 100 per night on a hotel, and a dollar for a bottle of water isn't my idea of fun. The people I meet going there are generally DisneyWorld type travellers, who have no desire to get to know the real Thailand.
Please help spread the word: Phuket is a terrible place. It's really only one big strip of hotels and rip-offs with the only worth while beach being Patong.

I've never spent 3,000 on a hotel room in Phuket and regularly help friends find accomodation for 500-7000 THB. As for drinking water, you can find it for the standard 6THB in just about every convenience store.

But I'm sure breaking your simple stereotypes isn't going to help you. Sorry for blowing down thenice little house of cards your silly generalizations helped to build.
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The people I meet going there are generally DisneyWorld type travellers, who have no desire to get to know the real Thailand.
Phuket has also wild beaches... trails and boonies... not only fake Prada and Gucci.
I do not drink water, but Perignon, Guinness, Safire or Glens...

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Net income is NOT revenue--that is profit.
You would have the simplest and realistic idea about business... Net Income is the only figure that you would ever focus on...
Enough already with your UAL (soon to go bankrupt) you are proud to be American born, good for you. Now spare me the ever boring perpetual US propaganda...

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The people on the ramps are being paid good money. I have checked DHL, and it costs 45 USD to send a letter from BKK to Washington DC.
Paid good money? 12 bucks an hour rain or shine?
Imagine that, 45USD for a 20 grams letter... 3 millimeters thick… how many letters would match your body weight as well as cubic meters of yourself, seat and space put together? Your ticket pays for the gas, and the letter travels for free...
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Firstly - If you paid 12,000 odd baht for 2 people to Phuket on Air Asia - your mad. This flight can be made for on average 3000-3500 baht return.

Did you research your trip AT all before you went on it? If so you would know Air Asia have no reserved seating - and is it really that bad that you didnt get to sit next to your friend for a 1 hour flight!!!

Did you tick the box about accepting conditions of travel - and did you actually read the conditions? On LCC's you mostly cant change the ticket or if you can - it is for a high penalty and usually your better off simply no-showing for your booked ticket and buying another one. In this case you could have purchased another low cost one way ticket on either: - Nok Air, Thai Airways, Air Asia or OneTwoGo.

Thai AirAsia are by no means perfect but they are operating a fleet of 20+ year old 737s - they are bound to have problems. Like I said in a previous post - they are replacing all of these aircraft with brand new A320s and I think you will find things will improve.

Having flown at least 20 sectors with Air Asia and Thai Air Asia - I can tell you - yes they have delays, but they are consistently the cheapeast option and I have never found the staff to be rude and I have always gotten where I needed to go eventually. They have a teriffic route network and have made low cost travel in asia available to the masses. You an go almost anywhere in S.E asia with them at good prices!

If you dont like it - fly Thai, fly MAS, fly SIA - and pay through the nose.
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it is only 700 km from BKK to HKT
It's 500.

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The people I meet going there are generally DisneyWorld type travellers, who have no desire to get to know the real Thailand.
That's interesting. Where did you meet these people? In all my time living in Phuket, I've met numerous families, couples and other travellers who don't fit your narrow profile. I personally konw alot of people who volunteered after the tsunami and who still contribute now.

Have you met any Thais who go to Phuket? Or Chinese, Japanese or Koreans? I doubt they fit your profile either. I was holding off handing you the reds, but now you will receive one.
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12 bucks an hour is double what an English Teacher makes in Phuket.
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its way more than 500k to Phuket. Perhaps 500 miles
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