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Thread: Thai numbers - will they die out?

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    Re: Thai numbers - will they die out?

    I hope they don't die out. I like the Thai numbers. They're more elegant than the Arabic ones.

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    Re: Thai numbers - will they die out?

    Quote Originally Posted by bgood View Post
    I assume they are on the keyboard we use but I've no idea where they are
    Strangely enough they are on the top row with our numbers but not quite in the way that one would expect, I have to assume that they have been off-set slightly as the middle of the keyboard is for vowels only. Anyway, here is where they are:

    2(๑)3(๒)4(๓)5(๔)8(๕)9(๖)0(๗)-(๘)=(๙)

    Quote Originally Posted by Lizara View Post
    I like the Thai numbers. They're more elegant than the Arabic ones.
    I think so too and it would be a shame if they fell further out of everyday use.
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    Re: Thai numbers - will they die out?

    Quote Originally Posted by tropic of cancer View Post
    Hold on, hold on! why am I getting attacked again? This isn't about me - it's a point that's arisen out of genuine intellectual curiosity, nothing more. I don't have a preference one way or the other. I did kind of get to know them last year, but the graphic representations naturally differ from place to place because, let's face it, they're complex.

    Good luck to you my little Thai numeric friends! I bear you no ill will - have a cigar, relax! Stay as long as you like.

    I simply wondered whether or not Thais, all of whom are familiar with Arabic numerals, would evevntually cease to use them.

    Some of you folk are too argumentative for your own good.
    Then maybe a better question for you to ask would have been "will the Thai language die out" because the numbers are of course part of the language. Like LLL said, there are only 9 of them, take 10 minutes and learn them and problem solved.
    Last edited by BerryGoose; 7th November 2008 at 05:15.

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    Re: Thai numbers - will they die out?

    Quote Originally Posted by tropic of cancer View Post
    I just think that there may be a tipping point where new conventions supercede old ones. It's not a conscious decision on behalf of the whole culture Re_fuse - nor do I think history is necessarily any help given the comparative speed of information exchange.

    I read an article lately that suggested ( the stereotype) why Asians students were a head of their western counterparts in mathematics ...And the reason being was Asian languages simplistic numeric systems.

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    Re: Thai numbers - will they die out?

    Quote Originally Posted by rogerman View Post
    I think you better realize where you are, and get a grip on yourself..... Don't you think you're getting a little on the racist side? If you can't finally realize that this is Thailand and NOT the states (or wherever you are from) get out!!
    WTF?! How am I being racist? I'm asking an honest question, I couldn't give a flying whether they do or don't. They can invent a whole new extra-squiggly lot for all I care. I just think they'll eventually fall into obsolescence and wondered how long it would take.

    Now where's my can of spray paint? I've just got time to replace a few evil squiggles with some honest, upstanding 2s and 5s before school.

    I think it's you who needs to get a grip and stop jumping down people's throats for imagined slights (on somewhere that I'm sure you probably bitch about just as much as the next person).

    Quote Originally Posted by BerryGoose View Post
    Then maybe a better question for you to ask would have been "will the Thai language die out" because the numbers are of course part of the language. Like LLL said, there are only 9 of them, take 10 minutes and learn them and problem solved.

    I asked my wife about this when she got back. She said (re thai numerals) 'we don't really use them'. She is someone who would flat-down refuse to wear (what I regard as beautiful) thai silk outfits because of her preference for aping western styles and who works in a 100% thai-speaking office where all electronic communication is done in English - including personal emails. I would suggest that she could probably be numbered among what sociologists call the 'opinion formers'.
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    Re: Thai numbers - will they die out?

    Quote Originally Posted by LLL
    2(๑)3(๒)4(๓)5(๔)8(๕)9(๖)0(๗)-(๘)=(๙)
    Don't forget the Thai zero shift Q (๐).

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    Re: Thai numbers - will they die out?

    Jesus Christ, another rant.
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    Re: Thai numbers - will they die out?

    Thanks Bet, I was in two minds about that one to be honest as I didn't want the OP to have a coronary at the sight of tenth number.
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    Re: Thai numbers - will they die out?

    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Jesus Christ, another rant.

    Hold on fella; someone just called me racist for suggesting Thai numbers might have had their chips. I started this thread as the result of a passing speculation. I hardly expected to be roundedf on by the Thai culture police and I fail to see why I have been. That's all.

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    Re: Thai numbers - will they die out?

    No worries mate.

    Quote Originally Posted by aging one
    Jesus Christ, another rant.
    You're right there, mate. A rant-a-day. The old chestnut, lets do-away with the Thai alphabet, or Thai Transliteration: what-a-load-of-shite, will be next.

    OP, What about the phinthi, shift B ( ฺ ) on the Thai keyboard? It looks like a Thai decimal point.

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    Re: Thai numbers - will they die out?

    I have to confess that I also was unware of the existence of Thai numbers, though I've wondered at times why that is.

    Usage of Arabic numerals could hardly be for the benefit of the tourists; I see them everywhere, from price/kilo scrawled on a piece of cardboard advertising the price of fruit of a truck, to class lists issued to me where the students' names are in Thai script but their student numbers in Arabic numerals.


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    Re: Thai numbers - will they die out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Asper View Post
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    Usage of Arabic numerals could hardly be for the benefit of the tourists.
    You're right - they're used for the benefit of encouraging feelings of superiority in 'thaier-than-thou' English teachers. Thais stopped using them years ago, but they know ajarns get a kick out of them

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    Re: Thai numbers - will they die out?

    Quote Originally Posted by tropic of cancer
    Thais stopped using them years ago, but they know ajarns get a kick out of them
    Thai's have not stopped using them, they are still widely used in schools and official documents.

    they're used for the benefit of encouraging feelings of superiority in 'thaier-than-thou' English teachers
    This is what you get when you start a ridiculous thread.

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    Re: Thai numbers - will they die out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Asper View Post
    I have to confess that I also was unware of the existence of Thai numbers, though I've wondered at times why that is.

    Usage of Arabic numerals could hardly be for the benefit of the tourists; I see them everywhere, from price/kilo scrawled on a piece of cardboard advertising the price of fruit of a truck, to class lists issued to me where the students' names are in Thai script but their student numbers in Arabic numerals.
    I assumed it was not so much that the Arabic numerals were for the benefit of the tourists as that the Thai numerals on, say, price lists at national parks, were "for the benefit of the tourists" in that if they don't know how much the Thais are paying, they don't know how much they're getting ripped off...

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