i've never hit a kid and would never do so. i had some teachers in my primary school who hit me and they were assholes. one guy lifted me off the ground and smacked me on the face a few times because i accidentally knocked over a papier mache model. he also literally kicked another student over 2 rows of desks once. last time i heard he was still teaching at home too
that's not the way a real teacher should approach the job.
I didn't say it was. I'm saying it's how it often happens in Asia.
Shoulda pointed that out. Though it'd be equally wrong for a female teacher to hitt a Mathayom student stronger than her (with the assumption that social convention would prevent that student from striking back).
Only excuse for a teacher to use force is in self-defence / defence of her students.
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When the great lord passes the wise peasant bows deeply and silently farts
Violence: it's a vicious cycle (they say). When a child is raised with violence he/she has a tendency to practice what he/she was taught when they become an adult. Keeping this in mind, I think it's a good idea to probe a prospective teacher about his/her upbringing. Were you ever abused by a teacher/teacher when you were in school? Did you ever see this when you were a student? What was your homelife like as a child? Perhaps it seems like a violation of privacy, but they ask such questions that violate our privacy anyway that have no bearing whatsoever on our job performance (i.e. last salary, marital status and so on).
There's no excuse for violence.
My father was a violent man. I'm not.
I make my own decisions, and live my own life.
We could all act like wankers and blame someone!
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"When somebody challenges you, fight back. Be brutal, be tough." - Donald Trump
The great length of this thread suggests there is not a universally prescribed structured disciplinary procedure at Thai schools. When I was at school they used a long thick cane not a ruler, two strokes on each hand. The swish of that cane and the smack sound frightened the life out of me. It frightened the shit out of 99.9% of kids so they behaved. The classrooms were peaceful like a church. It was the same 6-8 kids in a school of about 500 who were regularly thrashed. It didn't affect them, they didn't cry or rarely even winced but it kept everyone else in line. I hated the regularity of the thrashings but notwithstanding that I still think a caning should be the ultimate sanction and carried out by the Head, not other teachers. I can't imagine what it must be like to teach today in a rough inner city school. I have the greatest respect for those teachers.
^ Do you feel that the children's potential was maximised Marty?
Did they get to express themselves at all?
Or maybe that doesn't matter?
What sort of 'peace like a church' was it if it was a 'peace' that resulted from the children being scared of a beating?
If the 'peace like a church' was a result of the threat of beatings then what does that say about the church?
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But sometimes shouting over them works to a point (I have a very loud teaching voice).
My classes are teacher-centered. That's how it works when your students can't count past 10 or name more than eight animals. If my classes were student-centered we'd be playing hammer-paper-scissors all period.