Well said, but solidarity is dead in this town.
Isn't it about fucking time that we were payed more?
Isn't it time we told the agency to go fuck itself? Those wankers exploit us and the schools.
Calling all you teachers out there in TL. Start marketing yourself.
Hustle a bit more. Get more perks. Stand up for yourself.
Thanks for listening.
"Changes and progress very rarely are gifts from above. They come out of struggles from below."
Well said, but solidarity is dead in this town.
Ah, but we don't really need to unify, we just need to, on an individual basis, STICK UP FOR AND BELIEVE IN OURSELVES!!!!
Let's have it...!!!!!
My saturday job just raised the rate from 750 to 800 cant complain, and the rate 7 years ago was 500 so some places are still allright.
Too long in Exile, too long not singing my song.
Too long like a rolling stone, Too long in exile
Too long in Exile, baby you just arent my friend.
Too long in Exile my friend, Baby you can never go home again.
Van the Man 1993
AO, good stuff mate. I know from your previous posts that you have a knack of getting good gigs!
But at my own uni I am with you Nicky!! same OT rate as 17 years ago 400 per hour. If they raised it to 600 they would get what they should be getting out of their teachers.
I think my main point is that we, as a group of people, need to send a clear message to agencies and schools; we will fuck off to Japan and make some real money unless you start compensating us properly.
The word on the street amongst Thais should be that clever farang jump through hoops to live here and should therefore be compensated accordingly, as well as respected.
I know I'm probably repeating what others have said, and I know that there are hurdles in the way.
All I ask is this, next time you're asked to teach, by anyone, charge more than you think you should! I've been guilty in the past of buckling because of a sweet smile etc, but we should all be more aware of our talents and uniqueness.
Incidentally, how much do you charge privates? Be honest! I charge 800 baht an hour to teach a company up soi 63. I should have charged more....
You can't change Thailand mate, but I wish you all the best.
Riddle me this brother can you handle it
Your style to my style you can't hold a candle to it
Equinox symmetry and the balance is right
Smokin' and drinkin' on a Tuesday night
It's not how you play the game it's how you win it
I cheat and steal and sin and I'm a cynic
I sound like a naive twat I know, but I've always liked stiring things up a bit. Makes life more interesting.
I know what you mean (although I'm probably overpaid if anything), but it's an uphill battle mate.
But if you don't try I s'pose
You sensible poster you, but yeah you're right (initially I thought he meant a threat of mass exodus (is that the right word?)).
I usually say to newbies, get your foot in the door, make yourself indispensible (sp) and then knock for more cash/perks etc. Now if only I could take my own advice (although I did just get a 255.33 (recurring) Baht a month pay rise).
does anyone within the uni where i work have any say in how much i earn?
am i wrong in thinking that there is some sort of govt. decree that stipulates that farangs at govt. unis earn 26K?
btw, i signed the contract knowing full well how much i would earn, and frankly, i don't come close to spending all of it....but if they are allowed to pay me more, i'd like to know---another contract will eventually have to be signed.
There was a lot of debate years ago about a falang teaching union. I think it's a good idea. Someone should look into setting one up...
TIT ray, everything's negotiable.btw, i signed the contract knowing full well how much i would earn, and frankly, i don't come close to spending all of it....but if they are allowed to pay me more, i'd like to know
I just can't see it flying over here mate, it would be seen as antagonistic and confrontational by the local mandarins, and it'd just make them even more defensive. You must know how counter-productive it is to be up front about such issues in Thailand. Downright disrespectful that is.There was a lot of debate years ago about a falang teaching union.
Individual negotiations are still the way to go. I can see the merit in some sort of loose association resembling a union, but more as a support/ideas type thingy than anything else. It'd have to be much more stealthy and outwardly disingenuous than it's Western counterpart.....you know, Thai style.
BTW I completely agree with the OP that too many people sell themselves way short (we all do in a sense ). Don't be afraid to negotiate, and don't be afraid to put noses out of joint. :smile:
Or would you like to swing on a star?
It's nothing more than arrogance on the part of too many employers in Thailand who basically view and value all farangs, regardless of qualifications and experience, alike.
The salaries paid teachers in Thailand are ridiculously low.
The employers in Thailand are able to get away with this by having a readily available pool of unqualified and unprofessional farangs who are able to find their way into a classroom with the title of "teacher."
These "teachers" are also happy to accept such abysmal salaries, and so the dance continues.
A union is impossible in Thailand, as there will always be too many "scabs."
It's nice to dream, though.