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Farangrakthai · 22nd April 2008, 06:36

all races have their indiosyncrasies, both positive and negative and the Jews in America have contributed greatly to America in the arts, business, science, etc.

That being said, The Zionists (Khazarians?) are evil, IMO and must be stopped.

I'm not religious, per se, but this is an interesting verse from the bible.

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Timeline of the Rothschild family

The Book of Revelation, Chapter 2, Verse 9, states the following which would appear to be about these Ashkenazi Jews:

"I know thy works, and tribulation and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."

and, IMO, the Zionists in America are a far greater danger than the Zionists in Israel as America could easily, if it wished, tell Israel to give up land for peace or face trade sanctions, cancelling of the 3 billion plus a year in support for Israel, etc.

blowing up the world trade centers and destroying Iraq, what's next? destroying the American economy, crashing the dollar to bring about the Amero and the NAU, moving towards a multi-decade plan for a so-called New World Order?

re_fuse · 22nd April 2008, 06:53

It's a matter of race ,Jewish and Arab blood are both Semitic

People forget that.

People also don't realise that it is a case of the mad Russian stock that cause the troubles and gave the Nazi's their inspiration because the jewish great Grandads were fucked up by the Czars and their dads were rapped by Stalin. Jews from other stock seem a bit more mellow.

The crux is a creed that think's itself better than the rest wants to control everything because God chooses them too..... even after God says different

I say fucking Moooooooo to all of that

robitusson · 22nd April 2008, 08:30

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Jews to be sacrificed in Germany, so that there would be a reason to get their own state of Israel.

I understood there was definitely collaboration between the Zionists and the Nazis.

Shame it can't be discussed without conspiracy theorists, holocaust deniers and anti-Semites popping up everywhere.

That's why things like conspiracy theories and holocaust denial works in the powers that be's favour. It makes legitimate criticism much easier to dismiss. Oh well.

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people can collectively get together and justify their behavior in anyway they choose

daneel · 22nd April 2008, 08:38

^sad but very true.

re: zionism. I still don't get that term as it is to narrow and actually refers to something else.

Farangrakthai · 22nd April 2008, 08:42

agree that the holocaust deniers should focus on other things than that as obviously a tragedy of large proportions happened to Jews in Germany, etc. (debating the number killed is sick, IMO, though people shouldn't be locked up for denying it, like is happening in Europe) Why it happened is another question.

See: Neturei Karta - Orthodox Jews United Against Zionism

Ten Questions to the Zionists

but IMO the word "conspiracy theory" has undeservingly been given a bad name.

It is simply

conspiracy theory. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.

"A theory seeking to explain a disputed case or matter as a plot by a secret group or alliance rather than an individual or isolated act.

So, yes, I don't mind being called a Conspiracy Theorist, because I am and do it as a hobby.

daneel · 22nd April 2008, 09:03

Well there is a place for conspiracy theories, sadly too often the evidence provided is circumstantial and opposite the norm. In one of the most hideous religions of modern times Science and Politics that's suicide.

Farangrakthai · 22nd April 2008, 09:09

this is a good attempt at using science to prove a conspiracy theory:

from the 9/11 Redux thread

Publication in a Peer-reviewed Civil Engineering Journal! | 911Blogger.com

note the number of views of this thread is now 666

and the number of replies is 66,

certainly not a conspiracy rather a coincidence which is how conspiracy theores are usually explained by some to be untrue, just coincidences when they are not IMO

daneel · 22nd April 2008, 09:14

and tomorrow it will be more that 666 but when it comes to 999 now that will spells trouble and doom.

sampdoria · 22nd April 2008, 12:11

First of all, not all people of Jewish descent or of the faith are Zionists, and some do not believe in the nation of Israel as it exists today. Some believe only the coming Messiah will be able to found a Jewish state, others believe in a state where Jews and others live equally under the law, etc.

It's not so cut and dried an issue.

There are many forms of Zionism...and some Jews just want a place to call home where they can protect their culture and be left alone. Nothing too zany about that, is there?

The Kurds, believed to be the world's largest race without a homeland, want the same thing, as do other peoples. Now that Israel has been established, maybe the world can start helping other victims out there....and Israel can pitch in, too. Nothing too zany about that, is there?

Also, Arabs are semites too, or at least many of them. If you don't like Arabs, you could very well be an anti-semite. It would be nice if people could forget their differences and focus on what they have in common.

Of course then you have the Palestinians, who have been in the region for thousands of years, some say going back to the Philistines or the Canaanites. You can't just kick those people out of their homes because somebody has a book that says that zone was promised to them...or because the British pull a fast one, like they did with the Kurds.

No offense to anybody from the UK...I happen to like you people a whole bunch.

As for the midget with the bad haircut and mustache...

Hitler was asked if he really wanted to go through with the extermination of the Jews and be tied to that for the rest of history, and hi sbasic reply was something like "Look at the Armenians...nobody cares about them, do they?" He was talking about the supposed (some say very real) Armenian genocide, which killed an estimated one quarter to one thidd of the entire population.

Many nations still refuse to recognise it (though I believe Canada does, as well as Sweden,Germany,Italy,France,The Vatican,Greece, Belgium, and a great many US states)...Turkey denies it of course.

For some reason, Israel doesn't seem to be on the list of nations that do recognise it, even though The Elie Wiesel Foundation for Humanity issued a public document signed by over 50 Nobel Laureates that back Genocide Scholar's conclusions that the events of 1915 were in fact genocide.

Maybe if people had stood up for the Armenians way back then, the whole second world war purge might not have taken place. As for why victims of one genocide aren't standing up for those of another...that is anybody's guess.

Then there are the victims in the Ukraine, Rawanda...the list is not a short one. Is it right to throw more attention towards one horrible mass-murder than another? Do some victims of similar tragedies warrant more sympathy than others?

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Thank you for your good wishes I was actually aware that this the week long celebration of ''Passover'' celebrating the flight of the Jews from bondage and slavery in Egypt.

Yes, and they were paid reparations..rightly so. When will the victims of slavery in the United States be paid their reparations? Why don't people talk about that very much? Why don't former victims of slavery who have been paid for their suffering say anything for their fellow man who hasn't?

It might help.

Wanting what you see as yours and demanding it can be seen as normal human nature...but standing up for your fellow man is just plain noble.

Oh, and for those who would try and construe this as somehow racist, it isn't...and I'm not, so good luck.

daneel · 22nd April 2008, 12:41

That's why I said I don't get the term zionism. I would call it differently illuminati maybe.

But then again I grew up in one of these cities:

As for reparations. I know for a fact that the Germans are very serious about this issue and do not only pay damages to Jews BTW. Problem was and is that many documents were not available. Since the fall of East Germany and the opening of russian vaults German authorities have been fairly pro active.

Larkinny · 23rd April 2008, 02:25

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Jewish Bolshevism, Judeo-Bolshevism, Judeo-Communism, or in Polish, Żydokomuna, is an antisemitic conspiracy theory that blames Jews for Bolshevism.

The Jews and the Communization of Russia

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One of the prime Jewish conspirators plotting to Communize Russia was Jacob Schiff, who became head of the enormously powerful New York Jewish banking house of Kuhn, Loeb and Co.

Turn to the laudatory sketch of Jacob Schiff, in the Jewish Communal (Kehillah) Register of New York City, 1917-18, of which Kehillah he was an Executive Committeeman (see Exhibits 210, 212, 214, 215). It is stated there how German-born Schiff came to America and made connections with a banking house. “In 1873, he returned to Europe where he made connections with some of the chief German banking houses” and “The firm of Kuhn-Loeb & Co. floated the large Japanese war loans of 1904-5, thus making possible the Japanese victory over Russia …”

The last paragraph (Exhibit 215) boasts “Mr. Schiff has always used his wealth and his influence in the best interests of his people. He financed the enemies of autocratic Russia. [This was written in 1918, after the Bolshevik revolution had been made secure] … and used his financial influence to keep Russia from the money market of the United States.” It is stated that “all factions of Jewry” hailed him for this.

“Today it is estimated by Jacob’s grandson, John Schiff, a prominent member of New York society, that the old man sank about $20,000,000 for the final triumph of Bolshevism in Russia.” (Cholly Knickerbocker in his society news column in the Hearst Press, Feb. 3, 1949, appearing in the N.Y. Journal-American and other papers.)

re_fuse · 23rd April 2008, 04:22

Ahhhhhhhhhh Belsen was a Gas

Farangrakthai · 23rd April 2008, 04:44

regarding,

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That's why I said I don't get the term zionism. I would call it differently illuminati maybe.

IMO, the freemasons with the so-called Illuminati at the top of the pyramid are an organization for the anglo-saxons to join and the Zionists to control.

Dubya, Cheney, Wolfie, Rummy, Powell, Rice are puppets IMO, and are placed there while the Zionists are holding the strings and fill up the rest of the white house.

The JEWS who Run Bush and the USA

re_fuse · 23rd April 2008, 04:48

There is a Satanic group of Crawlieites who control the inner workings of freemasonry These fucking evil people get other powerful people in compromising positions so they then can control them .....Diplomats .....Judges ....Police Commissioners anyone who has some clout. only the top echelons of the freemasons are aware of the existence of this group.

Anyone else had better wear tin foil hat because if this group gets you in their sights they will try and push you off the planet.

I know because they tried to prosecute me for religious defamation/vilification and demanded thousands of dollars in compo

.... besides a unique legal defence it was a bit hard for them to serve papers abroad

But if they still want to bring it on ( again ) I have all of there membership lists ( so much for secrecy ) private addresses and telephone numbers I will publish ( as well as other ammo )

I am ready ( this time )

Lostone7 · 23rd April 2008, 10:29

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Really ?
Can't they ?
Is it ?
Really ?
Can't it ?
Have they ?
Did/do they ?
was/is it ?
Isn't there ?

Not exactly a well constructed argument there, Larkinny ... an awful lot of assumptions repesented as facts and, lets face it, the whole argument is ad hilterum ... why not come back with some quotes, statistics and facts and you might be taken seriously.

AMEN .............Thanks Bubba!