latm

Ajarn farang, it must be very frustrating for you in Thailand, with so many you consider unqualified in better jobs. Life is often very unfair, I know. But the reality is, no matter how often you call people names, the same.

I am certain that the British Council would not hire me because I am not British. Beyond that, it is a mute issue since I have no interest in working there.

Whether you think I am an amateur or not really means very little. Of infinitely more important is what the school, the pupils, and the parents think. They seem very satisfied so far. But even more important is what I think. I wouldn't presume to say that I am a perfect teacher, but I do a good job and those students with any interest in learning end the class with a better understanding and grasp of English. When I can say the same about those who start the year with no interest in being in class, I will have moved a very great way toward being a good teacher.

There are a lot of people like risktohimself in Thailand who are interested in teaching and are becoming better teachers with more experience but according to you are not qualified teachers. For many of them, despite what they may want, it is just impossible to take a tefl or other course, so they will remain unqualified in your eyes. But, you know what: what you think really doesn't matter. These people are improving the quality of English teaching in Thailand, and serving to balance a bit the effect of those (qualified or not in your definition) with no interest in teaching and continue only as a means toward other pursuits.

This is getting a bit tiring, so I don't plan to comment any more, unless,of course, you have a specific question you would like to address to me.

imported_Lovebucket

and do thais actually say those things.... gosh !

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keegan

aj.baby.
how long have you been here. what do you base your god given opinion, yes, opinion, on. nonthaburi?
say no more. that aswell as yourself have been total f/ups from the start.

as you so started a thread inviting ppl to your 31st. birthday. please realise you do not have all the answers. 31.... and already a stuck up, i'm better than you f/wit.

have you had any experience of teaching outside of nonthaburi. are you a dissatisfied pom, sorry liverpudlian, :chug: or are all your opinions based on study at uni, which most posters here have done, and a throw away tesol cert.

yes. throw away. the experience gained in the classroom, imho, far outweighs the tesol,tefl, which only prepare you for a perfect environment. ps. i have tesol.
and 7 years teaching exp. here. plus age on my side
a vauxhall league player are you? then if not stop the rantings under , what three user names and a sex change as well, and post again when you understand what you are posting about. This Is Thailand. and the environment, in many ways, is so different to what you often allude to. go save someone else :twogirls:

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ajarn farang

keegan-baby: i like to make friends and influence people. actually on my bday i didn't get down to baccara until midnight so if anyone did turn up i must have missed them. i would have expected you to have put in an appearance though you selfish slag.

yes.

you should have both regardless.


oh no now you're mad about the footy comments. that was a joke you sad cunt. don't you have humour in oz?

look i give up. you know i can't stand to argue with keegan-baby. ok everybody let's fucking scrap all qualifications. all i want is a concensus: either quals 'yes' or quals 'no'. and fuck testing the kids ever because if we are not qualified then how can we be qualified to mark other people's tests? on what premise? because we 'say' we are??

that's because it's full of sh.itehawks who poo-poo standards.

i see. make it up as you go along. heaven forbid anyone in the know should judge you. the parents don't know most of the time. the kids will always go for the teachers who are nicest to them and give them good grades.

you're way off the mark there keegan-baby. that's not me at all. i'm not better than anyone. but i do have a cert and a first degree and i think that is very important. so do many others.

i'm very happy with my job as it happens. i work for one of the leading universities in thailand and that is where i want to be. perhaps some earn more but then money has never mattered to me. i was offered 60K on arriving in LoS but i turned it down to do a job for 26K because the latter job was a lot more interesting. it paid dividends in the long run. but hey! let's not talk about me.

imported_Lovebucket

waft........ waft

ajarn farang

i didn't mean it literally you . btw who is that minger in your av? most disconcerting.

i've said my piece. i'm climbing down off my high-horse now to begin the arduous task of getting wrecked drunk of a saturday night. i have no further desire to take part in this mass debate lest keegan shag my arse.

bye y'all!!

keegan

concensus. if there is someone out there more com. savvy than me, and can start a poll.....
topic. who is the biggest dropkick, selfcentred poster on this forum.

and when the concensus of opinion points out the obvious winner, who will reply?
hent, A.J. or fish :chug:

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ajarn farang

who loves you keegan-baby?

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i'm outta here!!

banjo

This thread has taken a turn into lala land.

What is a 'proper' teacher? The only real virtue of a celta is that it gives you some insight into how LITTLE you actually know about the the business - and points you in the right direction if you want to find out more. It also demonstrates to a potential employer a degree of (financial) commitment.

As to making anyone a 'proper' teacher....... a reasonably in-depth reading of Scrivener or Harmer would probably do the same job. And a celta will be of no help whatsoever when you come face to face with a class of 50 prathom 1 kids in a government Tetsabaan school for the first time.

'proper' is relative term.

Before anyone starts swanking about their qualifications - they might want to ask themselves why - if they're such hot-shot teachers - they're not teaching at...I don't know..let's say BAE in the Gulf for 50,000 quid a year - instead of mucking around in Thailand on a tenth of that. Unless they have independent means and don't need the money - the answer is - because they can't. And why? Because they're not qualified.

Like I say... it's all relative.

hentaigaijin

because we get to shag nubile thai maidens and have a laugh on the side. the gulf would be boring and just full of cocks like you.

diaw

The issue of suitably-qualified teachers & Thailand seems to be an odd one.

1. One the one hand you have a country that does not want to pay the required salary to attract suitably-qualified, trained teachers. Yet, in the same breath, the authorities require a degree & various other pieces of paper.

2. On the other hand, you have a large group of foreign 'teachers' 'teaching' in Thailand. The number of suitably-qualified teachers is most certainly less than 5% - in as far as the 'paper requirement' is concerned. The bulk of the so-called 'teacher core' is made up of expats who could never, ever obtain consistent teaching work in their own countries. Their basic qualifications are - in the main - non-existent - dockers, storekeepers, drop-outs etc. They could, at best, serve as glorified 'sounding boards' & as suitable 'practice objects' for the children of their Thai masters.

The latter group is the principal reason why clause (1) exists in the first place. If the Thai authorities decided to really clamp down on the 'teaching racket' in Thailand, then I venture to say that this forum would be a very lonely place.

Why folks don't spend the time & re-train properly - instead of playing the continual 'paper dodge & bluff game' - I have no idea.

hentaigaijin

i got a sense of personal achievement from gaining qualifications. i think that is a nice thing, no?

Bangkok Phil

I think an important point Diaw is that the vast percentage of teachers who 'couldn't obtain teaching work in their own country' probably wouldn't want to anyway.

I'd much rather be a postman than a teacher. That's no joke at all.

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hentaigaijin

holy ! that's a :sad: state of affairs!!