keeshou

Well I think we can see who are the "raciest" (shouldn't that be the most racist?) people.

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Kerux

Nemo.

so Gay Nigerian Muslims need not apply...........

Not sure about the gay bias though as so many gay Thais. Or do they just ignore it due to "consideration" but secretly hate them? I never got the feeling in my classes that was true. Yes, Laos causes giggles if you get them to say "I was in Laos" "I am from Laos" (for practice) or say Cambodia. And yes in that Thai Elephant movie the bad evil black Elephants are Cambodian!

But fillipino teachers seem to do ok. Even some of our parents use them to teach them English - prob as they are cheaper and usually pick up Thai easily.

Nigerians get the shite end of the stick everywhere. Even other black hate them!

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ahriman

There is an important and insightful point in this. Apart from the tribalism of racist inclinations that we all have by instinct, what causes by far the majority of problems is culture. Or rather, people that dont share our own.

Consider this. A black brain surgeon is assimilated perfecty into a white suburb in USA, whereas a black dope-smoking Rastafarian isnt.

A Pakistani PhD in mathematics is assimilated perfectly well into Surbiton Surrey, where the 3 families (who all chew betel nuts) who move into next door arent.

Lots of examples. Race, colour, creed, whatever are less important than behaving like we do.
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Actually I agree, and I am no more racist than anyone else here.

Jack Straw went on the telly last year (I think it was last year) and stated 'of course, nobody doubts the many benefits of multiculturalism...' knowing full well that any dissenting voices would be branded racist.

I would love someone to have stood up and asked him to name any three.

poolcleaner

I think Thailand is no more - no less racist than Australia.

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ahriman

I was told by a gay acquaintance of mine that most Thai families regard a gay member of the family as a terrible and demeaning thing. They just dont talk about it much. Easier to ignore.
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Fully agree Pooly.

Pommie bastards go home.
Slopeheads go home.
Boaties go home.
Dagos go home.
etc etc

The original poster is right though, Thais are racist. We all are. It is just that in civilised countries, there are anti-discrimination laws that make differentiation in treatment illegal. Not here.

Kerux

Not being discriminating is civilized? I'll have to think about that one.

Let's see, if I'm a landlord and I own my building and someone I don't want to rent to applies, I should be forced to rent to them?

If I am a private employer and I don't want to hire a certain person, I should be forced to hire that person?

That is what is happening now in most 'civilized' countries.

Nickyboy

No, you big fucking moron. The idea is that you hire the best person, regardless of race and or sexual preference. The idea, and you'd have to be a cunt on a grand scale to think it aint a good one, is to allow everyone an equal opportunity.

No-one is forcing you to hire the Hispanic, paraplegic dyke.

How do I feel when I see a Korean job ad that specifically asks for a North American female? Not that great, unsurprisingly.

Mind you Kerux, if there was a job ad that said, 'complete religious loonies that don't believe in dinosaurs are encouraged to apply'....

Unwell

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ahriman

Not what really I said although you clipped it a bit. It is civilised to treat all people as equal until they show themselves to be unworthy of that right. It is uncivilised to treat people unfavourably solely on account of their skin colour, creed etc. It is the person inside the skin that is important. It is not (in my view) uncivilised to make decisions on the basis of an incompatibility of cultures but since most people who are discriminated against on the this basis will choose to believe it is on the basis of race, it is a difficult thing to legislate for. Race and culture are closely linked but they are not the same thing.

You can rent to whomsoever you wish, but you are not allowed to reject any tenant who can pay and maintain the property as well as any other, on the basis of race, creed, sexual orientation if in all other respects they would be a good tenant. This seems reasonable though in reality of course it does disallow you some measure of personal discretion in the atter. These sorts of compromises permeate society and are necessary because some would misuse their ability to discriminate in order to disadvantage people on the basis of personal prejudice or preference.

Same as above.

To my mind, a 'civilised' society is one in which all have the same opportunities to have a useful role; one in which due attention is paid to the poor and needy and does not simply allow the brute force of earning potential or personal prejudice to hold sway. While folk like me and you might find our personal liberties curtailed in some minor ways, this is a trade-off for deriving the increased security and benefits of a 'civilised' society. It is a feature of democracy, a cost of democracy if you will, and there are many examples of us being prepared to make these compromises. Living together as people without killing each other requires many such trade-offs.

Of course, my view on this is pretty immutable, as yours may be. Perhaps we can only agree to differ.

Kerux

We're getting off topic. The topic is the extinction of the white race. What discrimination has to do with that I'm not sure. Maybe some here don't want to admit that perhaps us whites are losing the battle. I don't know. having been a landlord and an employer, I can tell from experience that you are not free to rent your property to who you want to. And you have to be careful what you do because you will be accused, just like I have here of being a racist or discriminating.

Using your reasoning then Thai people have no right to discriminate against foreigners who, with money in hand, want to buy up Thailand's beach front property, right?

That's fine and dandy, but do these people have the right to come into a country that was founded by white Europeans, built up by white Europeans, defended by white Europeans, and then demand that they be hired for jobs that other white Europeans could and should be doing? You don't see nonThai people in Thailand being able to take jobs away from Thai people do you? Why is it that we whites have ben made to think that we owe it to other races to give them a living? When maybe they got in our country illegally and then had an anchor baby which we paid for and now that anchor baby is taking over a job that our children may need? That's okay with you?

Well, nicky boy, you're discriminating against Hispanic parapelegic dykes, now aren't you? And maybe the Korean employer has a good reason for hiring a North American female - it's his money and his offer isn't it? And maybe he doesn't want nickyboys who when trying to have a civil discussion can't refrain from calling other people fucking morons?

ahriman

Well, no. That was another thread. This one is 'Are Thai taught to be raciest people.' This has inevitably broadened out into areas where we need to understand what is meant by racism, and how the official Thai approach to racism is in contrast with that of more civilised countries.

Sadly discrimination law is often abused by those whom it is designed to protect. Not always but sometimes. Dishonesty, intellectual, monetary or moral is always a bad thing imho.

I would argue so, same as in other countries such as UK and USA who wish to have the benefit of capital inflow and who wish to join the wider capitalist society. The difference with the Thai is that s/he wants the benefit without the trade-off.

Agreed, we shouldn't need to abuse each other...

Kerux

Yes, sorry got my threads mixed up they are similar and I'm posting on both at the same time and replying to the same people.

Unwell