BerryGoose

Here's one for the Brit boys, how about the English language which you all are so fond of telling us Americans that you invented. Hate to to tell you but it's Germanic in it's roots. Wait wait, I know it's only germanic in it's roots you say, YOU made it what it is today. But why is that different than what the bashers here are saying about what the Thais have adapted?

LeedsLeedsLeeds

You forgot to mention the Latin, Celtic and Norse roots.

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BerryGoose

Didn't forget, just trying to keep it simple for them!

kikiat

you say it as if the Germans invented it, but what you seem to be totally ignorant about is that the Germans don't call themselves Germans, they call themselves Deutsch and their country is named Deutschland, and Germanic is a collective name for northern European people, like the Scandinavians (further north, you probably don't have a clue about the geographics so I'll mention it) have a collective name, Slavic is a collective name for people from eastern Europe, Arabic is a collective name etc so to give the name "Germans" and claim anything "Germanic" to one nation is completely wrong.

lesson over and next time think before you post yer crap.

are you the kinda guy who asks people if they speak American?

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emjay

funny notion of "roots"... i'd go with "tributaries" for everything but the "germanic" and raise one french, which entered the mainstream quite independently of the latin incursion... sushi is now an english word, so how about a dribble of japanese? bungee, as in chord, is hindi runoff or something, and kayak is inuit melt and... do "brit boys" actually claim to have "invented" english? i've never heard one do it... mangle,now, that i've heard them do... and nothing is wurzle than that...

and on the Thai culture thing... Thai culture neither is nor claims to be ancient a la Korea and its 5000 years of continuous civilization "claim" (about the kindest way to put it)...

and I don't think 4 on a motorcycle is "Thai culture"... it's definitely Khmer, possibly Vietnamese, likely Uruguayan... in Siem Reap I gazed in wonder at a Chinese 100cc step-through carrying dad, a kid, a toddler, and a facking huge pig corpse... it's just something the poor do, i guess...

LeedsLeedsLeeds

Surely you mean to say Deutsch and Deutschland?

Not at all, we can't compete with the Yanks on this point.

Yeah I agree that it's not a part of Thai culture but it's not cultural in any sense, it simply economical. Why make separate journeys for each kid and the dead pig when everybody can can reach their destination(s) in one?

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kikiat

aha, 2 points for you sir, I was testing you lot ya see .

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Thanks mate, much appreciated.

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emjay

I'll take your word for it. I was in Somerset a very long time ago and an irate motorist shouted sumfink that sounded for all the world like "Ooo bist ee fink ee arr den?" with that lovely Cap'n Hook "argh" for an "r"... a mangle worth membrin'...



My thought exactly. And there's something graceful in the efficiency of getting it done without an SUV, two gallons of gas, and all that expensive insurance. I think of a lot of the unreflective scathe about "Thai Culture" is really just contempt for the poor and the way a society accretes around a significant mass of them. I have Thai "friends" who'll say that motorcyclists shouldn't be on the road at all and when they die they get what they deserve. I suppose posters here think, like my "friends", that the poor should either walk or stay home. How very "Thai" of them, if creepy contempt of the rich for the poor is "Thai culture", which I doubt.

jonny danger

No, it's Third World semi-poverty. In America it's one in an SUV.

According to Tyler and Morgan, two Englishmen who fathered the study of cultural anthropology more than 100 years ago, say it's: All learned, transmitted, behaviour. Not so difficult a notion.

Since then, as thousands of PhD candidates hammered away at the notion, other factors have come to acceptance. The latest, I think, is the notion that societies not only survive through fitness but through cooperation.

So you're a one-year-old baby and your mother tells you: This is blue and this is green. That is culture, you learned it from someone who learned it, and you will teach it to your children as well. Thing is the Polynesians who were invaded by PhD candidates in the 30's discovered they saw no difference between green and blue because they had the same word for both colours, that's culture.

Haven't you seen a Thai father or mother teaching a young child how to eat rice with his spoon in his right hand and his fork in his left? I adore watching the English eat, fork up-side-down in the left hand. My mother unlearned that when she came to America. Why? Because it was deemed unacceptable in America. She unlearned it as a survival tool, no manners = no friends.

If you consider just how complicated a human is you'll understand what makes him complicated is his culture. Consider the human matting ritual to that of a frog. For us one wrong word at an unfortunate time = going home to a good wank.

So we take what we learned as a child and absorb what we've learned as an adult and use the ever-to-be-updated result to get what we need from other people, then feed ourselves with the spoils. If our devised plan doesn't work we go on to plan B. If plan B doesn't work we look for a scapegoat.

When what your culture taught you doesn't work in the World today we modify it if we're clever or observant enough, or just remain the same and get selected out. The Darwin Awards are full of such examples. What's true for an individual is what's true for his society. "We told you not to drink and drive didn't we, son."

Thais are simple people, I like simple people, but they're dangerous .. be careful.

panhunger

...anything that delineates inferior or superior beings...or, anything that can't be explained...

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emjay

Right on. Informative as hell and clear as a bell. I still think, however, that 5 minutes after dad snags a good job, he buys a pick-up, sits the kids up front, throws the dead pig in the box, and off they go to market. I think even Tyler and Morgan would give the nod to economics in this case. A frog, now, would probably just keep on mating. It's their culture, I suppose. Or froggy lack thereof. Now, in Quebec, the mating and the driving would have to be conducted in French, which is, I suppose, "legislated culture", which Mom and her spoons cannot compete with if the police are armed and violent as they are in Montreal.

BerryGoose

I never have to ask, I'm smart enough to be able to tell if they can speak english. You ask people? However if someone asks ME what I speak, I say American english.