Originally Posted by stfranalum
admit what mate?
i never said anything to the contrary.
all common in the west i'd say, but that's my opinion.
and the coups...oh, ask mr. bush jnr., he don't need tanks.
"dead man, i only hear a rattle when you breathe."
nah, it's all good mate.
a mere difference of opinions is all good eh!
"dead man, i only hear a rattle when you breathe."
youre right.
...except when youre wrong
Well, we can choose to believe what we think might be true, based on our hunches and suppositions, ....or based on what a group says that has spent years studying the area specifically and knows what they're talking about. However imperfect this source may be, it's more reliable than I am on the subject and dare I say you too Mr. Hales.
If the fact that it's Western based is a problem, just point me in the direcion of the Asian or Thai based corruption watchdog.
I think that credit card companies and insurrance companies extort people back home. I think they're immoral and they're leeches on society. The cops do exactly the same thing here. They bully and extort. However, what the credit card and insurrance companies do back home is legal. Not so for the cops here. One is corrupt, the other isn't. Fact. Opinion is irrelevant. They're both unacceptably immoral for me, my personal view.
It's the implication of the argument that because X country has similar problems to here, then speaking about what happens in Thailand is somehow imbalanced or unfair.
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Back home, there is legal recourse. Here, if you get fucked over....you pretty much remain fucked over (think posh car smashing into pedestrians...), hence the resignation in most people; 'mai ben rai.'
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We kept waiting
Still nothing changes
It's a shame
At uni we called it sophisticated brainwashing.
Last edited by daneel; 21st August 2008 at 11:38.
who writes and rules on the law?
i could argue that i do!
never.
"dead man, i only hear a rattle when you breathe."
My nan. What does it matter?! The law is in place and you have rights. Rights, damnit!
'I know my rights.' - It's a national slogan, mate. And for good reason.
Thais are put to bed every friggin night with a soothing, moral message that is broadcast on TV. It translates into English as 'Royal Instructions.'
Christ almighty! No wonder so many Thais perpetually act like children. They are talked down to, chided and basically told how to behave all the way to the fuckin oven.
We kept waiting
Still nothing changes
It's a shame
And at home those royal instructions have been substituted with the words "by law and order".
Yeah great those rights, nice feel good idea. Just one thing though, I can't afford a lawyer or barrister. Can you?
But then again those pesky Friendship Societies can be blamed for all that.
Totally disagree and think you're getting confused. There is no equivalent to what I described.
As for affording a barrister, may I pen a quick anecdote?
My bro got manhandled in a nightclub by a bouncer, and was thrown down some stairs, along with a friend. The friend is a bit of a nutter, and started booting in this door that was nearby. All rather messy. My bro got arrested, and the nightclub charged him (or rather, the police did) and his friend with assault and criminal damage. My best mate, who actually is a barrister and used to handle this kind of thing when he started out, advised my bro to settle out of court. But my bro decided to defend himself.
And to cut a long story short, he won the case.
Now that's the kind of thing that makes you realise that it aint all bad back home, and that if you're in the right, you stand a very good chance of winning.
We kept waiting
Still nothing changes
It's a shame
I AM NOT CONFUSED.
Actually I am.
I haven't said it is all bad at home wherever that might be, Except England of course.
This "I know my rights", the mantra of post modernism where we have replaced national duty by individual consumerism. The only real right IE duty here is to consume but not actually use.
BTW: I am glad that it worked out for your brother. In many other cases it doesn't work that way.
Back to one of my original quotes: sophisticated brainwashing.
The problem many have in Thailand is not the fact that Corruption exists but that it is so much in your freaking face all the time.
At least the west and Japan have far more elegant, less in your face solutions to this phenomenon which in turn susses the populace.
Back to this law. This kind practice has been enacted in the west and Japan since 2002, they just didn't talk about it much, it was just a news bite in the 6 PM news watched by modern drones accompanied by their TV dinners dreaming of exotic islands as an escape of their pitiful desk job life and their monthly installments for that new car they had to buy but couldn't afford because the neighbor bought one and the missus went in to "zero come and get me" mode conveniently forgetting that the mortgage was overdue.
Last edited by daneel; 21st August 2008 at 21:44.
There's a news story on TD. A farang (poster) is at a stop light and a truck plows into him. The plower doesn't want the police involved so he must make an offer on the spot .. he doesn't have any money. They both take their vehicles to a body shop and get an estimate. The innocent farang has a wasted chrome-plated bumper and more damage. The plower says, they can sort that out here. Mate, you can't straighten a chrome bumper. Then the Thai guy gets a great idea: Look, I don't have any money and I don't have insurance, why not tell the cops it was your fault, make an insurance claim and the company will pay for both our cars!
Is that Thai or what?
silly little brown buggers...not at all like us freeborn englishmen eh! we're far too intelligent and civilsed to put up with that sort of thing eh!
(workconsumeworkconsumeworkconsume...)
"dead man, i only hear a rattle when you breathe."
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