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    Any Vegetarians Out There?

    This is disturbing....

    Dangerous levels of pesticides in veggies at high-end markets

    BANGKOK: -- Vegetables with a dangerously high level of pesticide have been sold in supermarkets and luxury department stores, the Foundation for Consumers said yesterday.

    The foundation tested vegetables from 14 supermarkets in Bangkok for pesticide contamination.

    The 14 samples included cabbage, Chinese cabbage, Chinese broccoli, yard beans, morning glory, parsley and bird chilli peppers (also known as "bird's eye chillis").

    The quality of seven of the samples was certified by the Department of Agriculture, while the rest were house-brand vegetable products.

    The samples were tested by the Public Health Ministry's Medical Science Department in March. It was found that five samples - Chinese broccoli, two samples of yard beans, parsley and bird chilli pepper - were tainted with harmfully high levels of pesticide.

    The parsley and yard beans were found to contain pesticides at a level that exceeded European safety standards.

    Parsley sold at Siam Paragon Department Store's Gourmet Market was found to contain Chlorpyrifos at a level of 0.84 milligram per kilogram.

    Under the European Union Food Standard, Chlorpyrifos should not exceed 0.005 milligrams per kilogram. However, Thai authorities do not designate a standard for Chlorpyrifos contamination in food products.

    Exposure to high levels of Chlorpyrifos, which is used to control many different pests, can cause runny nose, tears and increased saliva production or drooling, headache, nausea, dizziness, vomiting, abdominal muscle cramps and loss of coordination.

    Yard beans produced by Doctor Company were tainted with Carbofuran at a level of 0.007mg per kg. The EU prescribes a safe level of Carbofuran as not exceeding 0.02mg per kg. Thailand National Bureau of Agricultural Commodity and Food Standards designated that the level of Carbofuran in food products should not exceed 0.1 mg per kg.

    Carbofuran contamination causes symptoms such as nausea, dizziness, confusion and at very high exposures can case respiratory paralysis and death.

    Foundation for Consumers manager Saree Ongsomwang said her agency would send the results of the tests to the Food and Drug Administration and urge it to call on food producers to improve their product quality.

    Meanwhile, Vitoon Lianchamroon of the Biothai Foundation has demanded the government ban four pesticides - Carbofuran, Methomyl, Dicrotophos and EPN - for use on agricultural crops, as the pesticides pose serious health risks to people.

    The pesticides are banned in the European Union, US, United Kingdom, Finland, Singapore, India, Pakistan, Vietnam, and Myanmar.

    Vitoon said there had been an effort by a large pesticides importer to force the Agriculture and Cooperatives Ministry to register Methomyl and legally import it for widespread use in this country.

    "Allowing these pesticides to be used in the country puts people's health at risk," he said.
    4 more years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdomcome View Post
    Yard beans produced by Doctor Company were tainted with Carbofuran at a level of 0.007mg per kg. The EU prescribes a safe level of Carbofuran as not exceeding 0.02mg per kg.
    Eh!?

    Let's assume a misprint and it should read 0.002mg.
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    Hey KC - did you ever recover from the 12,000 baht meal? I love that story.

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    These are spray applied; a good reason to wash the veggies in a vinegar/water solution and/or baking soda wash/soak.
    I'll definitely be more diligent knowing this information.
    I already know China produce is the most dangerous out there. Normally if it says made/grown/canned or processed in China I don't buy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cluezo View Post
    Hey KC - did you ever recover from the 12,000 baht meal? I love that story
    I did. My bank account didn't.

    ---Update---

    Quote Originally Posted by fred flintstone View Post
    i was vegetarian for 30 days back in 1988. It was during the summer.
    Coincidentally, I was screwing a vegetarian one summer, back in the late 80s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdomcome View Post
    Coincidentally, I was screwing a vegetarian one summer
    Same here, thats where that post was headed. She put up a good argumernt and i gave it a try.
    But wendys put up a better argument and won out.
    I have no problem with vegetarians but i gotta have some beef and pork.
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    I was a vegetarian for over a year as a kid... there was nothing humanitarian about it, and I have always loved the taste of meat; it was nothing but pure spite. We were walking around Tesco (or other UK equivilent) and I spotted Linda McCartney's frozen veggie sausage meal. The advert was suck in my head and I really wanted to try it. I asked my dad to buy it for me but he laughed and said there was no way he was paying 1:99 when I wasn't even a vegetarian. "Sod you then dad, I am now!!" And I was!

    The relief I felt at the end when I tucked back into a bacon buttie,.... ahhh

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingdomcome View Post
    Parsley sold at Siam Paragon Department Store's Gourmet Market was found to contain Chlorpyrifos at a level of 0.84 milligram per kilogram.
    ...Here and Villa are my two sources of parsley, an herb I use at least twice a week...I wash the bunches off carefully (SD is a fanatic when it comes to pesticide residue on veggies), but there's no way to be 100% sure...if only we lived in a country where human life had more value and the Minister of Agriculture had finished high school...
    ...majestically enthroned amid the vulgar herd...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred flintstone View Post
    I have no problem with vegetarians
    Me neither. But I can never eat a whole one.
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    One of them, however, is opening a can of corned beef with that stupid key. This cannot easily be done at the best of times, and toast is of surprisingly little use in resolving the issue.







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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    (SD is a fanatic when it comes to pesticide residue on veggies)


    I'll bet.

    (I know the type..not my cup of tea though)

    ..........................

    I'm a vegetarian...

    I'm here for any questions.

    Vegetarians have to be careful in terms of maintaining levels of certain items...

    B12 comes to mind.
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    I have a question. Just how fat and couch-ridden and diabetic are you? Can you tie your own shoes? Do you ever leave the house? Is it your mother's house? Is there a nurse there to assist you? Do you ever piss your bed and just lie there in it? Do you consider yourself smarter than a humpback whale? Have you ever had sex with a woman? How much fatter than Chris Christy are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cluezo View Post
    Hey KC - did you ever recover from the 12,000 baht meal? I love that story.
    Me too--hysterical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny danger View Post
    I have a question
    You defintely have more than a question there JD..

    Were you present them to me one at a time...that would be quite a different matter.

    ---Update---

    or maybe not.

    one never knows, eh.

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