kiwiling

I think you could describe a big fish.

The same at my school...the kids were shit scared of them...totally archaic practice...One has to distinguish normal teenage behaviour from kids who are social misfits...when you get too many of them in a big class it is very difficult to handle...and the management techniques are not usually for good education...so the other kids lose out unforunately

Lizara

It's not "allowed" at my school either... in much the same way that prostitution isn't allowed in Thailand.

Radical Energy

What if the Teacher was a woman? And what if you saw other Thai Teachers you liked do that to students, especially the troublemakers? All of the other Teachers turned a blind eye and nothing was ever said. This kind of stuff never ever happened in my schools while I was growing up. Our Teachers were strict, but they never abused students like what I've seen in Thailand. And I've seen plenty of parents too who beat their kids very hard upside the head while in public on school property.

zehner

well if you're implying that it's the same in mine you'd be wrong.

i've never hit a kid and would never do so. i had some teachers in my primary school who hit me and they were assholes. one guy lifted me off the ground and smacked me on the face a few times because i accidentally knocked over a papier mache model. he also literally kicked another student over 2 rows of desks once. last time i heard he was still teaching at home too

that's not the way a real teacher should approach the job.

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Lizara

I didn't say it was. I'm saying it's how it often happens in Asia.

zehner

so? just shows that their are plenty of parents doing a great job of fucking their kids up

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Lor Ling

Then I'd let her know what it felt like for a child to be hit by someone bigger and stronger than him / her (I was imagining my kid at Pratom level).

Shoulda pointed that out. Though it'd be equally wrong for a female teacher to hitt a Mathayom student stronger than her (with the assumption that social convention would prevent that student from striking back).

Only excuse for a teacher to use force is in self-defence / defence of her students.

Chai mai?

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Radical Energy

Chances are good that she already knows what it feels like as she was probably in an even more violent school setting when she was growing up. I've had a large number of Thais (and long-term expats) who've discussed with me about how much teachers use to beat students in school and how much things have changed in this regard.

Violence: it's a vicious cycle (they say). When a child is raised with violence he/she has a tendency to practice what he/she was taught when they become an adult. Keeping this in mind, I think it's a good idea to probe a prospective teacher about his/her upbringing. Were you ever abused by a teacher/teacher when you were in school? Did you ever see this when you were a student? What was your homelife like as a child? Perhaps it seems like a violation of privacy, but they ask such questions that violate our privacy anyway that have no bearing whatsoever on our job performance (i.e. last salary, marital status and so on).

Lor Ling

There's no excuse for violence.

My father was a violent man. I'm not.

I make my own decisions, and live my own life.

We could all act like wankers and blame someone!

zehner

i'd tell you to fuck off and mind your own business. as nicely as possible of course

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martyboy

The great length of this thread suggests there is not a universally prescribed structured disciplinary procedure at Thai schools. When I was at school they used a long thick cane not a ruler, two strokes on each hand. The swish of that cane and the smack sound frightened the life out of me. It frightened the shit out of 99.9% of kids so they behaved. The classrooms were peaceful like a church. It was the same 6-8 kids in a school of about 500 who were regularly thrashed. It didn't affect them, they didn't cry or rarely even winced but it kept everyone else in line. I hated the regularity of the thrashings but notwithstanding that I still think a caning should be the ultimate sanction and carried out by the Head, not other teachers. I can't imagine what it must be like to teach today in a rough inner city school. I have the greatest respect for those teachers.

Cyrille