Originally Posted by Getorfmoiland
Exactly.
Nine out of ten people I run into in Songkhla probably have taken compulsary English up to the M3 level.
I can tell you that had they no it would have been money well saved.
I have no idea.
I don't have any solutions I'm just recognizing the enormity of the problem.
I'm also thinking reduced government expendure per capita is probably a pretty good bet.
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Sarcasm at the Ops ridiculous assumptions on the lack of prospects for the children of working class out of towners. Flick the humor switch mate. My wife is a lawyer in BKK, guess what her folks do
Those that want to read whatever they can want all freedoms, but have to understand they can have freedom, but it must be within the law.
I was going to argue against this position, as well as Russell's, but then I thought, "This is Thailand. Let's just figure out an ideal curriculum, even if we TEFLers have to cut ourselves out of the picture."
Let's ditch English and EVERYTHING else in the current Thai curriculum.
What would make a government affordable, Thai-centric course of study that would benefit Thai children and prepare them for a viable future in their own country? Let's not forget to recommend a maximum class size per grade level either. Scratch English, first of all.
Pack judges' lunchboxes?
Migrated
Thailand is no more corrupt than most countries. It is better hidden and more obscure in other places.
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So, let's just ditch any connection to the rest of the world shall we? That sounds like a mighty fine idea... I'm sorry, but we're not living in the 19th century, Thailand lives off tourism and exports so, who is going to speak to everyone else? Oh, that'll be those that can afford to be taught English, thereby perpetuating and exacerbating the financial divide... And that's a good move? How?
Kinda have to disagree with you here. What's best for the future of Thailand, an educated population that takes the country further or an insular one based on an ignorant and, briefly, obedient one? Like it or lump it, English is a major part in global trade and every country has to embrace it or get left behind. IHMO.
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How noble! C'mon dude - why do you think that foreigners know better than locals what their students need to learn. As in most countries - employers teach graduates learn what they need to know to do their jobs. For the movers and shakers, there is mover and shaker level of education. Everything is in order.
Give a Thai a fish and he'll eat for a day.
Teach a Thai to fish ....
and he'll think you're daft because there are plenty of fish at the market.
Well, this is a good point to consider for future prospects of getting a job here and living in paradise.
Now, the current language trend in Asia is first their native language, then a choose between studying English or Chinese.
Now, the parents will decide mostly what language their child will study. Though on the other side of the coin, you do see more and more university students taken up Chinese as their second language.
When, I worked in the High schools in Bangkok a number of years another language choice has popped called Korean. Why, Super Junior and Rain is popular among the girls to learn. Call it a trend.
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No mate, grow fruit. Farmers in other words. My wife has worked hard, both through uni and in the corporate world. She's still on the way up mate.
I beg to differ.
Any new business enterprise here is entirely hampered until Thais have figured out who wants what. The BTS extension is a prime example. You cannot work to a deadline here because the moment you announce the date there will be an army of people looking for ways in which to compromise that deadline if they aren't paid off.
And this is different than say - New York? I don't think so.
Re: Who is Thailand kidding?
X act ly ,,,,,,,,,,
wen peel had been here 4 a few months
he was spoutin,,,"All Thai schools shud b closed"
direct quote
he wants to save the Thais from themselves,,,,,,,,,,
he's so silly sumtimes
Last edited by 8ball; 19th November 2009 at 09:27.
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Talking from own experience, I work at a respectable large secondary school. The school has a parent-financed EP. About half of the Thai English teachers there cannot ask even a simple question in English, while the other half of teachers can mutter some incomprehensible sentences with strong accent. (The latter half is close to retirement age, while the other half is in their mid to late twenties).
On the other hand, in my apartment building most of the staff can speak English fluently - almost all of the staff are Muslim and ethnically Malay; many were born in Pattani in Thailand's South. Also, some of the tenants in my apartment building - wives, etc. of "farang" (e.g. from Sweden) speak English fluently and almost accent-free.
Last edited by AJ; 19th November 2009 at 09:24.
"You may be a cunning linguist, but I am a master debater." - Austin Powers
I'm sure that has something to do with something somewhere.
But I'm damned if I can work out what.
Anyway, err, well done classic chassis' wife.
This some sort of competition to make the most irrelevant observation possible?
Last edited by Cyrille; 19th November 2009 at 10:41.
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