Thread: Failing Students?

Basicaly I have been told that if you fail a student you will be looking for a new job

At my uni we are lucky. We can fail all who do not make the grade. Most of my classes are good this term. But one foundation class in the middle of the day had the worst group of unmotivated students. They took their final yesterday. 11 from 40 will fail. They will be back to take the class in the summer, or first term next school year. I dont have to see them again.

We've been told we can fail any students who cannot pass a second re-test. I practice, I rarely end up failing students if they jump through the hoops I set them, no matter how poorly they perform.

The way students get failed at our school is on discipline. If students are badly behaved all year to a well-rounded selection of teachers, it comes up in a meeting and the teachers as a body decide to fail that student on their behaviour score.

Some teachers get put in the disconcerting position that even if the student has behaved fine for them all semester they are forced by the others to fail them. Conversely the worst behaved students cannot be failed on behaviour by an individual teacher if at the teachers meeting they have not decided they deserve to fail.

It all kind of defeats the point of having individual teachers' discipline scores IMO.

Why don't they kjust have a sit-down and decide the scores to give everyone! It would save a lot of marking and correcting tests and all the admin that goes into comiling scores. I think I will suggest this to the management here if they start meddling again (which they no doubt will!) We could knock testing on the head and have an extra two weeks holiday :smile:

Don't forget the words of John Dewry ( 1930's) "Education is the standardisation of human beings"

Or the Words of R D Laing ( 1960's) " Education in practice has never been an instrament to free the mind and spirit of man , but a vechicle to confine and constain him"

Every Education System Camp Sausage Factory in the world has picked up this philosophy ( me thinks )

Student don't the pass mean u is the bad teacher.

I serious you the student fail.

The autism??? Mai pen rai! The dyslexia..............mai pen rai!!

now you know da problem you can fix na???

I have been told i can fail my students.
Whether this is just talk or reality we shall see next week as I am failing some of them

One private school I was at when I was in China ( China has very similar Education to Thailand ) Used to reduce teachers pay on the basis of how many students did not do well during the Black exams ( they were called black exams because there were a lot of students walking around with black eyes afterwards ) This exam used to determine exacly what one would do for the rest of there lives , doctor ,Lawyer shoe shine boy , begger.

Good luck Zevon, if you succeed you will have alot more respect from your students. Even the students you teach want the dumb asses who dont even try to fail.

Its no big deal if you fail. But its a damn big deal if you dont do your best to keep from failing.

Originally Posted by oxfordstu

It's been "suggested" by the powers above (the idiots that run this uni, not God) that we should pass all of our students, no matter how poor they perform on the final exam.....but this just seems ridiculous.

If students are allowed to pass, even though they are way below the level of ability, it just makes the system a sham.

But....many places in the world do this.

Even the U.S. educational system - long known for being occupied by idiots - practiced the concept of "social promotion," meaning that even if a student was lost, lazy, or just plain failing miserably, he/she should be promoted so they can stay with their age group and friends, and not get their feelings hurt.

Therefore we have Johnny the Grad who can't read, write, or find the Mississippi river on a map. (Well, he is American.)

the system a sham

You forgot "is."

All kids pass here. It would hurt thier feelings and make their families look bad if they were held back. It's also possible little Somchai's very wealthy parents may take their money elsewhere!

I've seen THai teachers blatantly give the answers to tests after the li'l buggers failed the first two times.

Cheating, lying, money, greed, mis-education.....par for the course here. They will regret it when African nations surpass them.

Get over it Stu. I did. Just like on Star Trek: We will go where no White man has gone before and leave their shit completely alone.