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View Poll Results: Do you like Metal?
Yes!! It is the greatest musical expression known to mankind!!! 16 66.67%
Dunno what Metal is and I live in a bin bag. 2 8.33%
No! I'm a gay kiwi and my mum was a sheep. 6 25.00%
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Old 29th August 2008, 19:42   #196 (permalink)
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Re: Do you like Metal?

Ministry shows have always been hit or miss for me. After witnessing their all-out assault on San Francisco in 1990 for the Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste tour (complete with a drunken El Duce), they’ve let me on more than one occasion with their lackluster shows of their later years. Understanding that this is claimed to be Ministry's last tour (hence the name of the tour: C U LaTour), I thought it might be good to see them one last time in the hopes for a no-holds-barred, ear-bleeding experience that I recall of Ministry years past.

I got to the Fillmore about halfway through the performance of the opening band, Hemlock. Which is good considering that the singer kept trying to get the crowd into a frenzy with such horrible lines as, "Raise your horns like it's Slayer in 1984!" One of the many problems I had with that line was that watching them was more like watching Korn, not Slayer. Upon hearing this bit of total lameness, I decided to grab a beer and people watch, which proved to be much more interesting than watching Hemlock.

Swedish metallers Meshuggah hit the stage next, and wasted no time getting the crowd all riled up. Judging from the reaction they were getting, as well as meatheads in the "pit," I think it is safe to say that most of the crowd was there specifically to see them. While Meshuggah is not my style of music, I did appreciate the technical voracity and energy in their performance. So did the crowd.

So did Ministry hit it home? Was the brutal attack on the senses there? Well, sort of. I went to the show with the understanding that Ministry is pretty fierce about not playing the oldies so I had no expectation of that. The stage was set with a shout to the past, namely a chain-link fence separating the band from the crowd. Once the band hit the stage, they opened with "Let's Go!" from their 2007 album The Last Sucker as well as “Watch Yourself,” followed by various songs (in no particular order) from their past 3–4 albums: "Worthless," "Rio Grande Blood," "Lies, Lies, Lies" and "I'm Still Waiting.” While listening to these tunes and watching the visuals that go along with them, all I could think of is, "I get it Al, you don't like George Bush," and neither do I, but perhaps some other subject matter might be in order.

Mr. Jourgensen then claimed that they were going to play some oldies. With a little reluctance and some help from Fear Factory's Burt Bell, (where was Jello Biafra this time?) they went into "NWO," "Thieves," and "Just One Fix" before leaving the stage for their encores. Ah, the encores. They finished up the night with nice rendition of songs from the just-released Cover Up, which included The Doors' "Roadhouse Blues," ZZ Top’s “Just Got Paid” and closed out the show with a semi-disco version of the Stones' "Under My Thumb," during which they had a balloon drop. Yes, that's right, a balloon drop! I like a good balloon drop just like the next guy, but at a Ministry show? It didn't work, and while Ministry was loud and fast, they seem to have gone through the motions and were a little lackluster in my humble opinion. Actually, come to think of it, a balloon drop is quite appropriate.
Ground Control - Ministry w/ Meshuggah

More on Ministry here: MySpace.com - Ministry - Hell Passhole, Texas - Industrial / Metal / Rock - www.myspace.com/ministrymusic and 13th Planet and Ministry - Homepage - News
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Old 30th August 2008, 18:50   #197 (permalink)
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Re: Do you like Metal?

Nice review. I would love to see Meshuggah, just to see how the hell they make those sounds and put together the music.

I saw Ministry about 6 years ago and was thrilled to the core at the whole experience. I found Al to be charismatic and menacing as hell and they laid waste at the show. Two drummers, three guitarists and the whole shebang (minus the Blues Bros. style fence.)

Seeing Jello on their last ever tour would have made it much more of a finale experience. Who knows? Maybe Lard will do a tour. Now that would be incredible.
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Old 30th August 2008, 20:08   #198 (permalink)
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Old 30th August 2008, 20:12   #199 (permalink)
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Re: Do you like Metal?

He was supposed to play Bangkok in '05 but cancelled. I'd say he puts on a good show but his albums are weeeeak.
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Old 30th August 2008, 20:18   #200 (permalink)
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Re: Do you like Metal?

Regardless tho robi,...I know YOU feel my pain.

Jeeezus....who would cancel "BANGcock" ??
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Re: Do you like Metal?

I sure do.

Plenty of MetaL coming up over the next few months here in Dumb-lin, Ireland. Looking forward to it. Full reports will be made.
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Old 30th August 2008, 20:24   #202 (permalink)
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How do you hear of these contemporary doom / death / thrash metal bands?
magazines and sites like rateyourmusic.com

you gotta put in the effort if you wanna hear quality tunes.
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In answer to LLL's question, Terrorizer magazine, Mojo magazine's "Underground" section, blogs and even on here. For instance Well/Unwell/Mr. Hales turned me onto Alcest, z turned me on to Ulver. pm or ask here if you want a run down of what I think is decent at the moment LLL.
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Terrorizer magazine
definitely, great mag.

also download via soulseek, check what people have in their collections, ask around...

pick a genre, ask away here...there's more than enough heads to give good advice.




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nasty. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay false metal.


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nasty. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay false metal.
I know you know your metal Hales, but................it's

simply,

O-P-I-N-I-O-N.




besides...Marilyn never claimed to be Metal.

He's THRASH bordering on INDUSTRIAL.


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Nothing like Fu Manchu to drown out the barking soi dogs in the morning!
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He's THRASH...
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What genre then Hales?

YouTube - Marilyn Manson - This Is The New Shit

and don't say "shit"
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i dunno man...kinda dark-glam rock...

in fairness, the first album was a revelation to me, blew me away. still a fantastic album...jus' seems that it's been downhill since then. saw them on the 'antichrist superstar' tour, good fun.

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