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    Musical key to unlocking teenage wasteland

    DOCTORS should ask their teenage patients what type of music they prefer to determine if they are at risk of developing a mental illness or committing suicide, researchers say.
    A study, published in today's Australasian Psychiatry journal, found that teens who listened to pop music were more likely to be struggling with their sexuality, those tuning in to rap or heavy metal could be having unprotected sex and drink-driving, and those who favoured jazz were usually misfits and loners.
    The findings prompted a call for doctors to include musical tastes as a diagnostic indicator in mental health assessments.
    The study's author, Felicity Baker, said yesterday: "There is no evidence to suggest the type of music you listen to will cause you to commit suicide, but those who are vulnerable and at risk of committing suicide may be listening to certain types of music."
    She said an Australian study of year 10 students had shown significant associations between heavy metal music and suicidal tendencies, depression, delinquency and drug-taking.
    An American study had also shown that young adults who regularly listened to heavy metal had a higher preoccupation with suicide and higher levels of depression than their peers.
    Deliberate self-harm and attempted suicide were also associated with teenagers who listened to trance, techno, heavy metal and medieval music as part of the Goth subculture, while those who attended dance parties were much more likely than their peers to be taking drugs.
    Some genres of rap music, such as French rap, were linked to more deviant behaviours, including theft, violence and drug use. Teens who listened to hip-hop were usually less troublesome, Dr Baker said. "But it's important to point out that music doesn't cause these behaviours," she said.
    "It's more a case of teenagers who may have a mental illness or are involved in these antisocial behaviours being drawn to certain types of music."

    Michael Bowden, a child psychiatrist and the head of medical programs at the NSW Institute of Psychiatry, said most doctors already questioned teen patients about their influences, whether from their peers, the internet or music.
    "Over the years there have been concerns about suicidal themes in some music and whenever a famous person, such as (Nirvana singer) Kurt Cobain, kills themselves we see a copycat effect among teenagers," he said.
    "But sometimes an adolescent's musical tastes will reveal nothing. The key to understanding any teenager is to treat them with respect by listening to what they have to say, rather than typecasting them according to the type of music they listen to."
    WHAT STUDIES SAY ABOUT YOUR SOUNDS:
    POP: Conformists, overly responsible, role-conscious, struggling with sexuality or peer acceptance.
    HEAVY METAL: Higher levels of suicidal ideation, depression, drug use, self-harm, shoplifting, vandalism, unprotected sex.
    DANCE: Higher levels of drug use regardless of socio-economic background.
    JAZZ/RHYTHM & BLUES: Introverted misfits, loners.
    RAP: Higher levels of theft, violence, anger, street gang membership, drug use and misogyny.

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    Re: Musical key to unlocking teenage wasteland

    Quote Originally Posted by re_fuse View Post
    Some genres of rap music, such as French rap, were linked to more deviant behaviours, including being a bit whiffy, eating cheese and shrugging moodily
    Ooh la,la!

    As an angry teenager I found listening to Hip Hop very cathartic.

    Were I to listen to GolfMike / other bland generic pop I may develop suicidal tendencies.

    Whilst, ironically, listening to the band Suicidal Tendencies cheers me up!
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    Re: Musical key to unlocking teenage wasteland

    What a load of bullshit.

    I listen to pop, rap AND heavy metal. What does that make me then Felicity?
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    Ah don't take my heart
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    Re: Musical key to unlocking teenage wasteland

    ^ Can we have a second opinion ?

    If you play Black Sabbath to your house plant it dies
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    Re: Musical key to unlocking teenage wasteland

    what about funk?
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    Re: Musical key to unlocking teenage wasteland

    Quote Originally Posted by re_fuse View Post
    POP: Conformists, overly responsible, role-conscious, struggling with sexuality or peer acceptance.
    HEAVY METAL: Higher levels of suicidal ideation, depression, drug use, self-harm, shoplifting, vandalism, unprotected sex.
    DANCE: Higher levels of drug use regardless of socio-economic background.
    JAZZ/RHYTHM & BLUES: Introverted misfits, loners.
    RAP: Higher levels of theft, violence, anger, street gang membership, drug use and misogyny.
    Where to begin???

    Guess what psychologists! All teenagers feel depressed, struggle with sexuality, worry about peer acceptance, loneliness, etc. etc. It's normal.

    They're medicalising human feelings. Those pills and tablets won't sell themselves I suppose.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lor Ling View Post
    the band Suicidal Tendencies
    Awesome!!

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    Re: Musical key to unlocking teenage wasteland

    Quote Originally Posted by bewildered wanderer View Post
    what about funk?
    Download some funk by the group Mandrill. In particular I recommend the album Just Outside Of Town. It'll put some pep in yo step!

    As will the album New Funky Nation by Boo-yaa T.R.I.B.E.
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    Re: Musical key to unlocking teenage wasteland

    Quote Originally Posted by re_fuse View Post
    If you play Black Sabbath to your house plant it dies
    Did you do that one for your High School science fair too?


    I switched my plants at the last moment and swore that Tchaikovsky killed the little bugger, while Mr. "thriving" over there appears to be an avid W.A.S.P. listener.

    I reported that, "furthermore I saw the "happy plant" shaking some of his leaves everytime the hit song: YouTube - W.A.S.P.-Fuck Like A Beast
    was played."

    Science dork appeared nervous as he strolled onto the next student.
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    Re: Musical key to unlocking teenage wasteland

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    W.A.S.P.-Fuck Like A Beast
    Listening to it now. Just gonna pop out for some vandalism after.

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    Re: Musical key to unlocking teenage wasteland

    I demand to be represented as well. Now where is my pill?

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    Re: Musical key to unlocking teenage wasteland

    Quote Originally Posted by robitusson View Post
    Listening to it now. Just gonna pop out for some vandalism after.

    You've got it all wrong mate,....that track should make you want to rape living plants...(or druids).
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    Re: Musical key to unlocking teenage wasteland

    Quote Originally Posted by re_fuse View Post
    POP: Conformists, overly responsible, role-conscious, struggling with sexuality or peer acceptance.
    I'm a little bit of this!

    DANCE:
    Higher levels of drug use regardless of socio-economic background.
    And a little bit of that!

    RAP:
    Higher levels of theft, violence, anger, street gang membership, drug use and misogyny.
    And I'll put a cap in your arse.....lalalala!!!


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    Re: Musical key to unlocking teenage wasteland

    Every creative act involves a new innocence of perception ,liberated from the cataract of accepted belief

    Young people need red music because it simulates what ?

    It gets cooler as you get older .


    But in terms of suicidal behaviour I would say that the music would play a small part in it.

    here is a small guide you can use.

    re_fuses aetiology of reasons why we die

    INTRA PUNITIVE Guilt / self blame

    EXTRA PUNITIVE punish others

    TENSION REDUCTION

    MODELLING observational

    LEANED AVOIDANCE avoid stress

    OPERANT BEHAVIOUR manipulative

    EXISTENTIAL unlivable

    ALIENATION victim

    COGNITIVE REHEARSAL stress relief

    * see para-suicide studies for further information.

    Well there you have it.

    Where do any of you think that music could play a part in peoples antisocial /criminal behaviour ?

    ....Alright its not going to be a great influence

    but neither are a lot of things that affect us..colours taste,smell touch...The MOON etc etc


    Any way if I was going to kill my self I would put on a Country and Western CD

    If I was going to kill any of you I would chuck on Beijing Opera

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    Re: Musical key to unlocking teenage wasteland

    I always thought that depressives barely listened to music at all, because it (among a myriad of other things) brought them no satisfaction.
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