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    So I just read Private Dancer. . .

    Really good book,great writing , story, characters ect. . and real easy read. .

    although i did feel as though it was really negative about farangs who lived in Thailand, thai people from the north, bar girls, and any type of thai/farang relationship

    anyone else read it? thoughts opinions?

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    Re: So I just read Private Dancer. . .

    I liked it. Went in a little skeptical....here's another hooker novel,...yadda yadda.., but it didn't drag.

    I'd recommend it.

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    Re: So I just read Private Dancer. . .

    I just passed it round my office amongst all of my colleagues curious about Thailand...about 3 of them have read it now....the team manager that got shafted by his Thai wife a couple of years ago declined as he's "not a big fan of fiction"...I first read it in 2003 before it was published as a book and remains one of the only books I've ever read just on PDF. Superb book and essential reading for anyone even considering taking his rental relationship beyond that of "jizz receptical" (as it's so charmingly worded by Leather).

    The epilogue just made me hoot....brilliantly wrapped up.
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    Re: So I just read Private Dancer. . .

    ive just read it also.thought it was quite good until the ending.was as though the guy who wrote it ran out of time to finish it!

    is it meant to be a true story or is it comple fiction?

    im sure not all bar girls are like that as well as farangs

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    Re: So I just read Private Dancer. . .

    Stephen Leather Interviewed by the Ibiza Bangkok Web

    That's an interview with Leather. He lives in Thong Lor. He cites Private Dancer as the book he's most proud of, over all of the "International Bestsellers" he writes. On another interview I've read, he reveals that the bars, and many of the ex-pat characters are based on real people, and categorically denies that Pete is based on himself!

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    Re: So I just read Private Dancer. . .

    Take a look at yourself is the latest. I love reading this stuff. Stickman has a lot of it too.

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    Re: So I just read Private Dancer. . .

    Quote Originally Posted by LDMA View Post
    declined as he's "not a big fan of fiction"...
    He should love it then!
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    Re: So I just read Private Dancer. . .

    I thought this thread had been done already? Stephen Leather

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    Re: So I just read Private Dancer. . .

    I read it last year and would recommend it. That being said the protagonist is an idiot who I struggled to relate to. He swallows so many lies and lets far too many ridiculous things go. But a quick glance at stickman shows it does happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by mcatt66 View Post
    although i did feel as though it was really negative about farangs who lived in Thailand, thai people from the north, bar girls, and any type of thai/farang relationship
    Plenty of sweeping generalisations lie within it's pages

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    Re: So I just read Private Dancer. . .

    Quote Originally Posted by SageAndOnion View Post
    I thought this thread had been done already? Stephen Leather
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    Re: So I just read Private Dancer. . .

    Quote Originally Posted by mcatt66 View Post
    anyone else read it? thoughts opinions?
    The ultimate cautionary tale for Westerner/Thai BG relationships. I think the mark of good fiction is that the writer grounds his fiction and characters in basic human truths, or at least touches on those truths. In that regard, the story was very successful and truly a tragedy of character.

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    Re: So I just read Private Dancer. . .

    You've been gearing up for that one for awhile...

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    Re: So I just read Private Dancer. . .

    Still haven't read it but it's on my list. I did meet the author once, at a panel discussion of (s)expat writers in Bangkok.

    I wrote about it a bit on here. I found Leather to be slightly 'non-authorly' at that event...

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew
    Leather talked exclusively about the minute dynamics of how his books sell - alphabetical placement, good sounding name, cover design, book title (hint: avoid "the"), etc. Came off as a Madison Avenue ad analyist, basically.
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    Re: So I just read Private Dancer. . .

    I read Guns, Ganja, Girls, and Gambling in Thailand...(Thailand's illegal economy and public policy). It was a pretty good book. Got through the first part with both eyes open (the part about gambling), the second part about the dangers and evils of marijuana in Thailand, and then read about prostitution and trafficking with a bit of disinterest by the time I had gotten to that part. Maybe it was all the predictability of how these things run, but it was a good book at the time.

    This book, although non-fiction, would probably relate to the OP because private dancer-types would probably essentially be called part of the trafficked ones.
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    Re: So I just read Private Dancer. . .

    Quote Originally Posted by LDMA View Post
    I just passed it round my office amongst all of my colleagues curious about Thailand...about 3 of them have read it now....the team manager that got shafted by his Thai wife a couple of years ago declined as he's "not a big fan of fiction"...I first read it in 2003 before it was published as a book and remains one of the only books I've ever read just on PDF. Superb book and essential reading for anyone even considering taking his rental relationship beyond that of "jizz receptical" (as it's so charmingly worded by Leather).

    The epilogue just made me hoot....brilliantly wrapped up.
    Like you, I read in PDF before it was even on the net and was very impressed. though I haven't really met many westerners in the business community as all of my friends are teachers I could really relate to the Thai charachters in terms of realism.

    It is a really good read where charachters polarise yet create empathy on both sides. I could really imagine Thai girls like Joy honestly wondering WTF - thais aren't known for their ability to put themselves in the shoes of others.

    I'm watching a mate of mine go down the same road though he truly believes he has found the one bar-girl who was just using the trade as a stop gap. Despite my attempt to point out the pit falls, I'm witnessing tales similar to Private Dancer unfold before my eyes.
    should be Thai girl 101 and required reading for anyone coming out here
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