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    Seeking advice--moving from Utah to Bangkok in 1 month!

    In June, I will move to Bangkok to teach English for at least a year and perhaps more depending on how I enjoy living there. I'm 33, I'm American, and I have a BS in biology with a chemistry minor. I worked for a biotech company doing research for eight years after graduating from school, and in addition to that I moonlighted teaching biology and anatomy lab classes at a community college. A couple years ago I quit my two jobs and I tried to start my own small business. I learned a lot from it, but unfortunately it just hasn't been very profitable. A friend of mine that I play chess with is married to a Thai woman, and they recently went to Bangkok for they're 30 year wedding anniversary. After they got back, he went on and on about how wonderful it is there and how I should just pack up everything and go. I thought it was a crazy idea initially, but I've researched it and I enjoy traveling and enjoy teaching so I've decided to do it. So I have a few questions:

    1. How much of a culture shock is it to move to Bangkok and how quickly were you able to adjust?

    2. I booked a one way flight from Salt Lake to Bangkok on Delta going through China Airlines. I did some research online and I'm concerned that there might be a problem with the airline because I don't have a return flight. Should I get the tourist visa through the Thai Consulate? Will this let me travel one way with no problem?

    3. I enjoy chess and I even play in tournaments. I checked online and there's a Bangkok chess club that I'm definitely going to check out when I get there. Is there any other places to play chess? How popular is Thai chess and how does it compare to regular chess?

    4. I was planning on finding a teaching position and then later on signing up for a TESOL program. Should I do otherwise?

    Thanks so much in advance for your replies!

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    IMNSHO:

    1. Depends on you. If you've never traveled outside the U.S., then I'd say it's going to be a BIG SHOCK. If you've traveled before and liked learning about different cultures, then it'll probably be easy for you. If, however, you've traveled and always wondered why the cultures you visited weren't more like America and seemed 'stupid' -- you're going to have problems here.
    2. To avoid problems, you should get a Non-Imm "B" visa, not a tourist or 60-day visa. If you have the Non-Imm "B," they won't question your one-way ticket. If you don't have it, you take your chances. Worst scenario is that they don't let you board until you show proof you have a return (or forwarding) ticket.
    3. Dunno about that.
    4. You should do the TEFL, TESOL, or whatever flavor of teaching class first. It'll also give you some time to get your bearings in the country before looking for work.

    Good books on Thai culture:
    Culture Shock: Thailand by Cooper/Cooper
    In the bedroom Out of trouble 2 by Knackstedt/Ford
    Working with the Thais by Henry Holmes

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    Welcome, Utahonian (or is it Utahite?). Big culture shock coming up. The only temples are Buddhist, unlike the one in Salt Lake City.

    Yes, since you're missing out on the new school year that starts this month, a TEFL course would be very helpful, even if you teach science, which you should.

    Good luck, and come ahead.
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    Thanks guys for the advice! Someone that grew up here in Utah is a Utahn. Honestly, I'm not making that up. I've traveled all over Europe including Ireland, England, France, Italy, Germany, the Netherlands and I've traveled all over the Western US. Never the less, I'm still bracing myself for a bit of a culture shock because I'm so used to living in a small town, although Utah is growing like crazy. I had an incredible time in Europe, and especially in Ireland and Italy. The food in Italy is insanely delicious and Ireland is so beautiful and the people there are just incredibly friendly. There's actually a small Thai temple here in Utah in Layton and my friend invited me to see it a month ago.

    I didn't realize it was possible to teach science. I thought it was difficult to find a job outside of teaching English so I will definitely look in to that and a TESOL or TEFL program.

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    Mr. Utah,

    Welcome! :smile:

    I agree with the above that you should come over and do the TESOL or CELTA course first, while you settle in and check things out. Even if you think you might end up teaching science, it'll still make sense.

    IMHO your European travel experiences will NOT necessarily prepare you for Asia- it's a whole other bowl of tofu. And...I'm not talking trash about Utah...but it's not exactly the most 'diverse' corner of the world nor is it all that 'unpredictable' socially, lets say...just be prepared to see some things -like, everyday - that don't quite have a comfortable place to stay in your brain.

    But lets not be patronizing. You'll have a blast and it sounds like you're headed in the right direction. But I'm really just a damn kid teaching some English to some babies what do I know!

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    In June, I will move to Bangkok to teach English for at least a year
    Yeah, I did that almost 6 years ago mate. :smile:

    Hope you enjoy your stay. :chug:


    I've traveled all over Europe including Ireland, England, France, Italy, Germany, the Netherlands
    As Matthew pointed out, Asia is Asia and a whole different kettle of rice from anywhere in the West, but Italy's the closest out of that lot. Laws are arbitary and made to be broken, corruption is endemic, enough money and the right connections will get you just about anything, surface beats substance, and food is the real religion. :smile:
    Or would you like to swing on a star?

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    Re: Seeking advice--moving from Utah to Bangkok in 1 month!

    There are plenty of Mormon missionaries on bicycles that you can hang with. They seem a bit depressed overall because the conversion rate is down. However, you can still manage to buy shitty beer when they are not around. You will have a tough time skiing in Isan or buying temple garments with secrets symbols sewn in. However, you will have much better odds at shagging.

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    Re: Seeking advice--moving from Utah to Bangkok in 1 month!

    Buy the book Culture Shock Thailand. Read it. Bangkok is very polluted. (The main reason that I choose not to live there). Also traffic is still a nightmare (but there is the skytrain and a subway.

    You can probably teach High School Science in an EP school. If you want to make good money you might consider saying in Utah another year and getting state certification as a teacher there first so that you qualify for teaching at International Schools. You shouold be able to teach at B level schools which the same or somewhat better than EP school. (English Program) Do a search of ajarn and find out more.

    As you are from Utah, you might want to consider options outside Bangkok for working. Many people live upcountry. Look at the statement of various people in the region section. There is some beautiful country over here. I need the metro living and chose to live in Chonburi province. It has less smog but it has other problems.

    It really depends on what you seek.

    I agree that if you cannot wait the year. Do the TESOL or TEFL program here. It will orient you to the local job market and the area. Many programs advertise on this site. Pick one that suits you. You need to have a police check from America. Get one at they local sherriff. (FBI is the best.) or from your statewide program. The FBI one takes several weeks. Usually local ones can be done in a week or two. Bring original degrees and transcripts. Bring money. It will cost more that you think to set up. I think $6000 is the right amount but many others might say $3000 is okay. Definitely do not come with only 1000 and think it will pay the tefl, rent and board before the job. It has been done but.... Anyway, you need a plan to get home if it does not work out.

    Motorcycles are a common way to travel. I recommend you have health insurance. (No I do not work for an insurance company.)

    Those are the main things. Good luck and welcome aboard.

    If you decide on a TEFL school, they will send a letter to get a NonIMM B visa. You take the letter to the nearest Thai Consul or send it to an Embassy. There is one in Denver. Not sure about Salt Lake. You will not be able to get a work permit on a tourist visa. But if you do get a tourist visa try to get a double or triple entry.
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    Re: Seeking advice--moving from Utah to Bangkok in 1 month!

    I've got a hunch this geezer's already arrived.

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    Re: Seeking advice--moving from Utah to Bangkok in 1 month!

    Welcome utahtobkk. If naboo is correct, how about an update? How are ypu adjusting?

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    Re: Seeking advice--moving from Utah to Bangkok in 1 month!

    If Naboo is correct? Check the date.

    Quote Originally Posted by utahtobkk View Post
    In June, I will move to Bangkok to teach English for at least a year and perhaps more depending on how I enjoy living there.
    The chances are, he's been and gone!

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    Re: Seeking advice--moving from Utah to Bangkok in 1 month!

    Since he never followed up, we dont know if he even came. Remember this was right during the time of the JMK fiasco, he might have been scared off. If he did make it he said he would be here for at least a year and contracts are usually a year at a tiime so there's a chance he's here. How about it, utahtobkk?

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    Re: Seeking advice--moving from Utah to Bangkok in 1 month!

    Bingo I missed the OP date myself.
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    Re: Seeking advice--moving from Utah to Bangkok in 1 month!

    2nd May 2006, 00:44

    you're all waaayyyy out of date
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