Hello I am taking the plunge!!!!
Can anyone advice of the lifestyle, living conditions about Surratthani and Surratthani School??? The school, kids, living conditions, etc....I am trying to work in Chiang Mai, but if I cant I will go to Surratthani...
Thanks
dont know about the town, but as far as the school goes, this is exactly why teflwatch.com is badly needed.
you cant expect an even handed response this this question of whether a school is good or not here. most people, even if informed, are suspicious to a new OP asking questions about the reputation of the school, as they may be outed based simply on the specific info they mention.
if teflwatch had a good base of annonymous posts, moderated right, it would be a better source of data. the relevant TEACHING subjects involved in teflwatch topics are relevant to ajarn.com. not the slandering or trollish support for a school online.
i think its in this site's interest to keep qualitative threads on specific schools away from the public discourse here. it threatens the authenticity of new posters, which makes for a suspicious read if youre new to the site.
Ok sorry about that, I will look at that website. Thank you...
Really I just don't want to be taken advantage of as a farang teacher, thats all.
Actually I will search about the school more, however, does anyone know about the living conditions in Surat?
I'll just repeat the mantra I've just been incanting on your other threads: come here and give yourself a month or so to see what this planet is like. Visit a bunch of schools, a bunch of areas. Rushing in "right off the boat" is the BEST way to put yourself in a compromising position, because you'll be disoriented, I promise you that.Originally Posted by dallia
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
I lived there seven years ago. Surat Thani wasn't my cup of cha yen. Perhaps you might like it. Go and see.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
My alternative universe...
Así pues, aquí estamos.
Most people here didnt have a clue about the first school they went to work in, just dive in at the deep end and if its not you cup of "Cha yen" then theres plenty of other jobs.
Good luck with it anyway
I lived there 3-plus years and worked at the school for one. If CM were a 10, Surat is a 6. It's not cheap. There are some good farangs there. The students are cool, the admin sucks, same as ever in Thailand.
teflwatch is hardly balanced mate...Originally Posted by stfranalum
a teacher with a grudge and a long history of being unprofessional and unemployable can go on there and talk shit about an excellent school. how is that 'even-handed'?
anyhoo, all good advice here. as mat said, go check the town out, spend a few weeks chilling there, see what you think. schools-wise it'll be the same as everywhere; some good some bad. see if you can meet any of the staff from the school. failing that, if you wanna stay, stay. as taf said, get stuck in, if it turns out awful c'est la vie, move on.
best of luck eh!
![]()
"...ever wonder why they kill the weak ones, baby?"
Although Surat School sucked it sucked less than any other gig I had in Thailand. Although Surat sucked it sucked less than Nakhon Si Tammarat. And NST sucked less than Chumporn.
We all judge a place under our own criteria. For some it's the price of hoz and beer. For me it's the people who live there. From what I've seen CM has the best people.
Oh Thanks![]()
I lived and taught English in Surat Thani for 8 months from Sept 1998 to May '99 so my experience might be more or less dated.
1) I don't know or remember the school you're asking of.
2) Enuff people in ST know enuff English there so that one doesn't much have to be concerned about learning Thai. Many people want to speak English. Some speak it well.
3) I had a two room apartment for Bt 2,500 a month. Small living room, huge bedroom, small veranda, hot water shower, no cooking facilities, small tv provided but I had to pay for UBC. Residence internet very probably is available by now.
4) Many excellent, pleasant outdoor restaurants which locals are enthusiastic about showing off to the farang. It's well worth the while. Indoor restaurants have a good variety of farang and Chinese food as there is a significant Chinese population there.
5) It rains most of the year and rains hard, hard as hell. The pattern is that torrential rain begins late afternoon, continues throughout the nite and into mid morning. Then the sun comes out. Because of the torrential rain, getting about on a motorcycle is a disaster as you have to wear clothes you can discard at school. You have to carry under careful protection the clothes you wear at school during the day. Even in a tuk-tuk you get wet. The wetness permates everything to include the pillows of your bed. Cool too.
6) The ST waterfront is ugly and the water greenish black with odor. However, it's about a 20 minute drive to a fine beach.
7) Convenient train station, bus station, airport.
8) I agreed to teach evenings to professionals at a rubber processing plant where I needed a gas mask even in the classroom. It seemed not to bother the Thais, tho.
9) Koh Samui is a pleasant ferry trip from ST, but for the past several years the island has been and continues to be raped by developers. Superb restaurants at the main beach area which offer a rich and delicious variety of farang food...best Mexican food I've had in Thailand.
That's some of the good, the bad and the ugly. PM me if you think I can help but you'd need to remember I haven't been to ST in 7 years. It was cheap then, probably still is at least fairly cheap.
Last edited by Yanqui; 16th March 2007 at 01:59.
or contact LeedsLeedsLeeds, he lives there.
ลาน้องก่อน พี่จนถึงต้องจำจาก, ถึงแม้พี่จะหลงรัก ฐานะพาพราก ต้องจากจอมใจ
ถ้าหากมั่งมี แล้วพี่จะคืนมาใหม่, ไม่ว่าจะอยู่แห่งไหน จะนานเท่าไร ยังไม่ลืมบาง...
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
TeflWatch has been mentioned here. I was a "Teflwatcher" for a year but recently left because it's become so badly led, the Mods are weak and the active membership has dwindled to a dozen or so who spend most of their time attacking one another.
However, when several teachers and former teachers make posts to TeflWatch about a school there usually is something to it. Trouble is, with schools threatening teachers who post at TeflWatch and the infighing among members, the place has become unreliable. Add to that that few teachers have confidence in the site, it has become clear that TeflWatch has to make changes and I understand some are in the offing. I hope so and I hope the changes are substantial and significant enuff to reverse the rapidly declining fortunes of the site.
Ajarn and TeflWatch seem to be thesis and anthesis. I understand ajarn refers teachers who come to this site to air a grievance to TeflWatch. I agree this is good policy and a viable approach. This thread, for example, can offer teaches what hopefully would be helpful balanced information which might help to minimise negative experiences with schools. This site can be proscriptive; TeflWatch willingly takes on the headache and risks of trying to sort the wheat from the chaff as far as complaints against a school are concerned.
Last edited by Yanqui; 16th March 2007 at 05:55.
Why not talk to some farang teachers at the school? If they don't have anyone on staff who's been there for longer than one year, then that's a pretty good indication that's it's not a good place to work.
Or maybe not. Second hand information is next to useless in this country IMO. I was warned repeatedly by some old hands not to apply at the school where I currently work. I'm starting my 5th year next term, and we've got folks who've been there for 3, 4, 5, even 7 years!
It turns out the losers who were doggin' the place lacked the quals to get past the front gate. You really got to watch out for sad sacks telling sad stories in this country... I can't overemphasize that enough.
You gotta start somewhere, and your first gig may not be perfect. Big deal! It won't kill you.
Go. Learn. Pay your dues. Meet people. Find out where the good jobs are and work your way to getting one.
Good luck.
Bookmarks