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19th July 2008, 08:41
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omvegan
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long intro and a different soft of question, maybe
Hello, I have read enough times about getting a degree. I know I should. Despite where I'm at, I would still have to start out as a new 3rd year student, I fear. I went to the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and got 3 years of credit. I studied math and computer science, even though I didn't really know what I wanted to do, and didn't like it. I left school with 94 semester hours total. Then I went into the US Navy and they taught me electronics for 2 years. That got me a 2 year degree in electronics from the University of Phoenix. Then I left the Navy and got into information technology. I got a microsoft certification (MCSE), then a unix cert. (HPUX), and took the Windows XP test. By this point I was sick of Microsoft's certification exams, and became interested in Linux. Unfortunately, I'm not a natural at it.
I was always able to memorize things. In school my best subjects that I also enjoyed were English, French, and Italian.
If I ever came to the LOS, I would totally want to avoid all the scummy areas, bars, and bar girls. Also, what is a police trap? Someone somewhere said, go past them. How hard is it to avoid all the people who would rip a person off?
Now I live in Metro Detroit. I have an acceptable job in IT, but nothing special. I would like to get into something involving language.
Detroit is dying. You can't get ahead here. Corporate life is rather soul-destroying. I am thinking about coming to Thailand. I would want to start work right away. If I could teach basic IT as well, great. Or is that prohibited for farang?
It seems to be that one can go to a 4 week TEFL or CELTA class, even in Thailand, and start out teaching English.
I have about $12,000 US saved. I have 2 old cars I could sell but they wouldn't pull in much.
Is is possible to meet decent women in Thailand, not bar girls, not sex-workers, not con artists? If so, how?
I am 40. The singles scene here in Detroit isn't bad, but it isn't great either. American women mostly seem to be all about money.
Because I think I'm in the wrong field, I'm not optimistic about getting ahead in IT.
Also, I'm vegan. I'm still researching how hard it would be to get along as a vegan in, say, Bangkok. The Lonely Planet book seems to indicate that it's possible. How much Thai would I have to learn to get along as a vegan? I'm already reading that the spoken language depends on how high or low one's pitch is, and whether it's rising or falling. It sounds complicated.
Now some text from a recent Thailand Lonely Planet book:
"If you speak a little bit of the language, invariably Thais will ask if you are a teacher, a profession that carries a great amount of respect. ... Taking on a teaching position in Thailand not only elevates your status from forgettable tourist to honorable guest, but it gives you insight and access into a community pleased to have you." Is any of this even remotely true? I have read online about loser teachers, and the TEFL meat grinder. How hard is it to differentiate yourself from people who are there for the wrong reasons, suck at English, etc?
Is it at all possible to get a teaching position somehow connected to a university there, and get a degree from a Thai university? Has anyone ever tried this?
Thanks! --Dean
Last edited by omvegan; 24th July 2008 at 04:32.
Reason: remove inflammatory content.
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19th July 2008, 10:25
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Re: long intro and a different soft of question, maybe
Dean,
Welcome to the board. Man, you have a lot of questions.
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I have read enough times about getting a degree. I know I should.
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You really should get a bachelors degree, mate. It will make a whole load of things easier.
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How hard is it to avoid all the people who would rip a person off?
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Not that hard, you just need some common sense. If something sounds too good to be true, it is. And steer clear of most language centres.
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It seems to be that one can go to a 4 week TEFL or CELTA class, even in Thailand, and start out teaching English.
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Very true, and that's why the following....
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Taking on a teaching position in Thailand not only elevates your status from forgettable tourist to honorable guest, but it gives you insight and access into a community pleased to have you
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is in almost total nonsense but these...
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loser teachers, and the TEFL meat grinder
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are a reality.
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Is it at all possible to get a teaching position somehow connected to a university there
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Very easy to get part-time EFL work, but impossible to get a proper faculty position unless you are properly qualified.
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Is is possible to meet decent women in Thailand, not bar girls, not sex-workers, not con artists? If so, how?
I am 40. The singles scene here in Detroit isn't bad, but it isn't great either. American women mostly seem to be all about money.
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Hmmm...
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19th July 2008, 20:45
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Matthew
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i won't hes-i-tate no mo'
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Re: long intro and a different soft of question, maybe
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I'm vegan. I'm still researching how hard it would be to get along as a vegan in, say, Bangkok. The Lonely Planet book seems to indicate that it's possible.
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Whoa man. Difficult if you're really serious about it. But if you're really serious about it, maybe difficult is okay.
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19th July 2008, 21:27
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rogerman
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Re: long intro and a different soft of question, maybe
 Hmmmmm here we go again.... Welcome aboard 
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19th July 2008, 23:19
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been there done that
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Re: long intro and a different soft of question, maybe
"American women mostly seem to be all about money."
That's going around.
This place (Bangkok) is probably about 822% better than motown.
Keep that in mind.
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Twice is too much.
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19th July 2008, 23:58
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Umbuku
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Re: long intro and a different soft of question, maybe
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Learn the language you need.
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I know I should.
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Would, could.
Welcome to the yard sale! 
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The free man thinks about nothing so little as death; his mind is focused upon life, not upon death. I always feel a bit sad when I see someone who thinks that the purpose of life is something other than living.
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20th July 2008, 00:45
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jonny danger
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Re: long intro and a different soft of question, maybe
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Now I live in Metro Detroit.
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Sorry to hear that.
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I know about scummy bars, scummy people, and scammers in general from my time in the navy.
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Sorry to hear that.
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If I ever came to the LOS, I would totally want to avoid all the scummy areas, bars, and bar girls.
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Beverly Hills is nice this time of the year.
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Is is possible to meet decent women in Thailand, not bar girls, not sex-workers, not con artists? If so, how?
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As they say in the used car business .. there's an ass for every seat.
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American women mostly seem to be all about money.
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Sorry to hear that.
No problemo.
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"If you speak a little bit of the language, invariably Thais will ask if you are a teacher, a profession that carries a great amount of respect.
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Only if you're Thai. TLP is shit bro.
TLP is shit bro.
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20th July 2008, 12:50
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happynz
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Ay compa, no te rajes..
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Re: long intro and a different soft of question, maybe
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I am 40. The singles scene here in Detroit isn't bad, but it isn't great either. American women mostly seem to be all about money.
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You're lonely, huh?
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Also, I'm vegan. I'm still researching how hard it would be to get along as a vegan in, say, Bangkok. The Lonely Planet book seems to indicate that it's possible. How much Thai would I have to learn to get along as a vegan? I'm already reading that the spoken language depends on how high or low one's pitch is, and whether it's rising or falling. It sounds complicated.
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Apply yourself or end up with some offal odds and ends in your kueh tiao. It isn't that hard to make your needs known.
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Thanks! --Dean
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Good luck.
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My alternative universe...
Un hombre con un tenedor en la tierra de la sopa.
[ A man with a fork in the land of soup]
Así pues, aquí estamos.
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20th July 2008, 14:35
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LeedsLeedsLeeds
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Re: long intro and a different soft of question, maybe
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Difficult if you're really serious about it.
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I agree that it would be difficult for someone who can't speak Thai and expects to eat at food stalls and regular food shops or restaurants. However, there are loads of vegan food shops all over Bkk and many provincial cities. Most are only open for breakfast and lunch so I often get a takeaway for the evening meal.
Dean, look out for these places:
The first word you will need to learn in Thai is เจ (Jae), you will see it written in red writing on a yellow background as above, these places all look very similar and the food is wonderful. เจ means vegan although it will often be mistranslated as vegetarian. Every October there is a ten-day vegetarian (actually vegan) festival all over Thailand and the best places to enjoy it are Phuket and Krabi although the biggest is probably in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
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23rd July 2008, 02:08
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omvegan
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apology... humbled... wrong forum...
OK, I think I'm done. For now.
Last edited by omvegan; 23rd July 2008 at 07:20.
Reason: OK, I think I'm done.
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23rd July 2008, 02:14
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happynz
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Ay compa, no te rajes..
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Re: apology... humbled... wrong forum...
All that red looks lovely, huh.
Tell you what. Sell up there in the US, go to Thailand and give it a whirl. Laugh a lot. Learn from your inevitable mistakes. Don't be a puss.
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My alternative universe...
Un hombre con un tenedor en la tierra de la sopa.
[ A man with a fork in the land of soup]
Así pues, aquí estamos.
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23rd July 2008, 03:58
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Umbuku
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Re: apology... humbled... wrong forum...
That's better isn't it?
Welcome to the board. 
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The free man thinks about nothing so little as death; his mind is focused upon life, not upon death. I always feel a bit sad when I see someone who thinks that the purpose of life is something other than living.
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23rd July 2008, 04:01
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happynz
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Ay compa, no te rajes..
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Re: apology... humbled... wrong forum...
^Hey, I greened the veggie guy and only one little pimple came off. Now he has a boatload of green!

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My alternative universe...
Un hombre con un tenedor en la tierra de la sopa.
[ A man with a fork in the land of soup]
Así pues, aquí estamos.
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23rd July 2008, 04:14
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Umbuku
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Re: apology... humbled... wrong forum...
Let's hope he's more like Spiderman and less like The Human Torch. 
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The free man thinks about nothing so little as death; his mind is focused upon life, not upon death. I always feel a bit sad when I see someone who thinks that the purpose of life is something other than living.
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23rd July 2008, 04:45
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