Results 1 to 15 of 15

Thread: Introduce myself, asking about the future of Thailand.

  1. #1
    New Member Array
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    2
    vCash
    500


    Rep Power
    0

    Icon5 Introduce myself, asking about the future of Thailand.

    Hello everyone,

    First of all I wanna thank everybody here on the forum for keeping such a good work, to the people who are sharing they expierences and stories, and to those who are helping so much in this matter.

    Few words about me:
    Michael, 21 years old, born in Poland. I grew up in Germany lived there for 8 years, in 2000 I went back to Poland (actually it was the decision of my parents. I hadn`t any influence on that) and here am I living now for almost 12 years. I intend to move to Thailand, to teach english. I really want to leave Europe ASAP. I`am thinking a lot about this how I gonna achieve my goals. I have two solution:

    a)Save some money, get a TEFL certificate and went quickly to LoS. This would take me I guess, maybe from 6months to one year.
    b)On the other hand, I could get here in Poland a degree called "licencjat" (3 years highschool (teaching specialization) - equivalent of a Bachelor degree), then quickly get a TEFL and then went to Thailand.


    But the point is that I`m wondering about the future of teaching english in Thailand. So I have a couple questions about that:
    I mean, what will it be in LoS in 3 years when I have finished my education? What are the predictions?
    Are the goverment or the ministry of education planning some changes in that matter?
    Will it be more difficult to get there, then it is now? What do You think about that?
    By the way, Is there a high demand on german teachers? I admit that I`m speaking german very well (actually it`s my native language) so I would give it also a try.

    After reading some topics here, I realized that it would be better to get a degree, but only thinking about the 3 years that it will take me to get it are horrible.

    Any advice would be appreciated.

  2. #2
    out of control Array bewildered wanderer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Bangkok
    Posts
    2,935
    vCash
    500


    Rep Power
    5535
    Get a bachelor degree...
    being non native will already limit job opportunities...
    In that time you could brush up on your grammar
    "Having sex is like playing bridge. If you don't have a good partner, you'd better have a good hand."
    - Woody Allen

  3. #3
    Too ugly to prostitute Array HiSo HoBo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Rocky Mountains
    Posts
    705
    vCash
    500


    Rep Power
    6029
    You'll find that the best job opportunities tend to go to those with degress (ie Int'l School jobs).

    I'm not for sure how difficult it will be for you to get a job here teaching English since you are not a native speaker. Not for sure about teaching German either.

    In 3 years....wages will be pretty much stay the same as they are now (25K to 45K starting out depending on where you live...could be higher with experience/qualifications). If you're motivated you can make additional money through tutoring. Thai government (ie MOE), historically, has not taken English programs/teachers seriously and I don't expect that to change. When you read something positive online, it's typically a dog and pony show.

    Good luck and welcome.
    "Thailand is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." - HST


    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

  4. #4
    Established User Array RobJWhite's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    310
    vCash
    500


    Rep Power
    1248
    Welcome to the forum.

    I'd suggest going down the BA route, purely because it will make finding a job and getting a work permit much, much easier. It'll help no end with brushing up any little grammar discrepancies if you use the time wisely and then you can get a decent TEFL at the end of it and head over to LoS. I know you're eager to go, but when you're struggling to find work and leaving BKK with your tail between your legs you'll feel much worse than you do now. Wages and conditions aren't going to change vastly in that time (or at all) and it's much more sensible in the long run. I've no idea about the demand for German teachers I'm afraid - perhaps check the Ajarn jobs listings?

    Good luck, whatever you end up doing - keep in mind that whilst Europe has its faults, so does Thailand.

  5. #5
    Remember...108 Array BerryGoose's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    2,122
    vCash
    500


    Rep Power
    6114
    You're asking for a crystal ball and no one I know has one. If you really want to come here, prepare yourself as much as you can (i.e. degree) and dive in. If you want to make it and have most of the tools, you'll be OK.

  6. #6
    Senior Member Array fred flintstone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    6,229
    vCash
    565


    Rep Power
    42658
    There are German International schools in Thailand. You could get yourself qualified to teach at one of these and work there.
    The job scene has not changed much in the past 3 years and I doubt if it'll change much in the next.
    fred

  7. #7
    SINsational Array Hollow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Bangkok
    Posts
    8,701
    vCash
    40800


    Rep Power
    31744
    ^ Yeah... play to your strengths.
    This is it... The apocalypse.

  8. #8
    dis member Array zeusbheld's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Ogygia
    Posts
    6,669
    vCash
    4500


    Rep Power
    33403
    get the teaching specialization in math and/or science, and you'll be able to find a job teaching math and/or science IN English, no problem.
    Imodium can't stop me.

  9. #9
    Senior Member Array fred flintstone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    6,229
    vCash
    565


    Rep Power
    42658
    Quote Originally Posted by zeusbheld View Post
    get the teaching specialization in math and/or science,
    Math and science teachers are always in demand.

  10. #10
    Established User Array typ123's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    155
    vCash
    500


    Rep Power
    1123
    I agree with the other posters. If you're eager to go soon, and decide to shirk getting a degree and bettering your English, you should try to teach German or get a math/science specialization. Good luck and welcome.


    You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.” -Friedrich Nietzsche


  11. #11
    Regular User Array ttompatz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Posts
    702
    vCash
    500


    Rep Power
    4262
    Quote Originally Posted by Genesisx View Post
    a)Save some money, get a TEFL certificate and went quickly to LoS. This would take me I guess, maybe from 6months to one year.
    b)On the other hand, I could get here in Poland a degree called "licencjat" (3 years highschool (teaching specialization) - equivalent of a Bachelor degree), then quickly get a TEFL and then went to Thailand.
    A teaching certificate is not a degree. Immigration doesn't want "equivalent". If it doesn't say "Bachelor of _____ " then you will have problems with the paperwork.

    Being a non native speaker means you also need a TOEIC-600/TOFEL-700 (ibt ?)/IELTS-5.5 score.
    It also means you will be working at the same wage levels as the Filipinos and other NNSs (b15,000-18,000/mo. with no benefits) and 10 month contracts (no paid vacations).

    Teaching German or math/science is an option but there aren't a lot of job opportunities for teaching German and you still need the degree (especially for a job teaching math/science).

    .

  12. #12
    AKA Mister Mr. Array Mr Mister's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    1,659
    vCash
    500


    Rep Power
    2829
    Quote Originally Posted by Hollow View Post
    ^ Yeah... play to your strengths.
    This is probably the diplomatic way of saying your English isn't strong.

    As someone who has very little interest in teachers, my main concerns lie with students. I believe I have students that are at a higher level than you have displayed in your post and they are STILL studying.

    So the harsh reality feedback from me is, if you going to study for three years, ensure you improve your English to, at least, Intermediate level.

    If you are unable to do that, you will be a further burden on the teaching standards in this country. If you do manage it, with the right attitude, you could easily overcome the 'non native' issue.

    I hope you take my comments in the spirit they were intended and I do wish you luck with your intended goals.

  13. #13
    New Member Array
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    2
    vCash
    500


    Rep Power
    0
    Thanks for the informations!

    Ok, so I`m going to college this year to get my Bachelor degree. Right now I`m struggling with choosing my specialization. I have a few options which i consider, because I dunno if it must be a strictly Bachelor of english teaching or could it be a english with another specialization? i.e.:
    -English Studies with a specialization in teaching & cultural knowledge.
    or
    -English Studies with a business language specialization.

    Would it make a big difference which I choose?
    Teaching in Asia would be just a way to getting starder there. As I`m thinking about to start my business later.


    If it comes to my current english skills, so I have nothing to hide, I know that my grammar sucks. My speech is communicative, but at least I`m understanding everything written and said in English. I`m not bothering about this because when I came to poland it took my only one year to speak fluently polish and 3 years to master the grammar (and trust me, polish grammar is one of the harderst in the world). So I believe in me and I`m intent to give 110% when it comes to learn and study hard for my goals.

  14. #14
    acostumbrado equivocado Array happynz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    ...coming 'round the mountain
    Posts
    16,993
    vCash
    1324483


    Rep Power
    27116
    Go for it, genesisx.

    To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

    My alternative universe...
    Así pues, aquí estamos.

  15. #15
    Established User Array yoots's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    113
    vCash
    500


    Rep Power
    616
    How's your accent, your pronunciation?

    I'd say that even with a degree you'll have a hard time as a non-native speaker to find a job if you don't sound English in the interview.

Similar Threads

  1. The Future of TEFLing in Thailand...
    By bet in forum The Staffroom
    Replies: 268
    Last Post: 16th June 2011, 11:17
  2. Thailand and the future
    By thankyoubyebye in forum The Virtual Pub
    Replies: 31
    Last Post: 18th July 2010, 02:40
  3. Future of TEFL in Thailand
    By torbek in forum The Staffroom
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: 15th September 2006, 15:43
  4. tefl future in thailand
    By ajarn joe in forum The Staffroom
    Replies: 34
    Last Post: 14th September 2005, 15:54

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •