i've heard that they've a bad reputation. Should i go for the interview next week? I assume i'm not allowed to name it but it's in Bangkok and begins with Executive Ed......
Does anyone have an opinion? Been shafted? Got a good teaching job?
I don't really know about this myself. It's easy enough to find jobs without agencies if you look around. But agencies might be able to get some jobs that individuals can't. I work in Esarn at the moment and a fella I worked with used to work for an agency. He told me that his agency paid kickbacks to get the contract. There were two competing agencies and one paid the director of the school more so that one provided the teachers. I've heard that agencies take a percentage of some teachers pay every month but that was some time ago so it may not be happening now. Just sounded wrong that someone is getting a nice cut every month for as long as you work there just for hooking you up with a job. I also heard it can be hard to get out of the agency. The guy I mentioned earlier renewed his contract after one year on his own cutting out the agency and still getting the same pay. So it's really up to you I guess. Some agency people might have more power or be more wiling to threaten to keep you working for them.
If you've never worked in Thailand it might be okay to start here but quickly you will learn it is very easy to find work and get through the work permit and visa stuff with just your new school office doing the paperwork. Good luck to you.
“When it is dark enough, you can see the stars.” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Many good, many bad, many okay.
Many pay more than if you were hired directly through the school - The school doesn't have to deal with the farangs and their endless issues, and never have to pretend they know what's going on English wise, so pay more money to an agency to deal with the nasty foreigners who make demands and ask questions.
Many provide decent curriculum and materials, set all the exams etc. so you don't have to do any of that.
Many conduct monthly meetings and work with the teachers as opposed to simply dictating what their duties are.
These are usually ones run by Thais who have lived in West.
Agency does not automatically = something bad.
It often = more money, better communication (It's likely anything will be better than Thai school admin and staff), good material/curriculum/exams supplied.
If they've been around a while they probably have good contacts which help gets things in line legal wise, so the process will be just give them what you've got and they do the rest. As opposed to some new office girl in NakornKwaiPittayakhom who'll panic and freeze as soon as you look at her.
Guy Manpoof sux nuts for $$.
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I am also considering using an agency. I am currently searching for jobs and am about to start the process of finding a job without agency help. How do you know if you have a good or bad deal with an agency? anyone have any specific standards or things that are red flags to watch out for?
Can they speak English and have they ever lived in the West.
Ok thank you!
Sometimes you can't choose between school or agency. I walked into a school, had an interview, got the job and was told that since the school worked with an agency I had to make a contract with them. So even though they hadn't done a thing for me they were going to making money off me.
Of course they then handled the visa and WP paperwork and deal with the school. Since I don't get along well with the school admin (I'm not the only teacher ho has that problem) I get informed or critcized by the agency, which I prefer.
Since I get an acceptable salary I don't really care ho much my agent makes. There's no putting a price on dealing with the Thai admin here, I'm sure every baht is hard earned money.
I can inform the agency that I am looking for another job and they will keep their eyes open for me. Knocking on doors is not a bad idea but some schools have secretaries who will tell every teacher who walks in off the street that they'd have to go through an agency; could save you a lot of time to start by signing up with one.
Then again a friend of mine left when he found out that his agent collected 65,000 THB every month and paid only 34,000 THB to him and 9,000 THB to his assistant teacher.
Agencies bad for teachers. Agencies good for school directors with deep pockets.
As many people experience this with agencies.
Though of course it is what you make it. Sorry if you made a poor decision and didn't choose wisely in the past.
You did choose poorly, eh.
Never mind. Plenty of good and quite a few great ones out there.