Thread: Barak Obama

All we need is for Jeb to step up...THROW DOWN JEB!!!!

sh*t. that's what they said when bush 1 ("no new taxes") left office.

but, in truth, i think W killed it for the bush clan for a loooooooooong time.

thank god.

Originally Posted by dongintheklong

I'm all for no government. Whatever dupe gets "voted in" will be gobbled up by special interests in no time--in fact has there ever been a president that didn't represent special interests?

Greed is king here, and folks are just sleepwalking into the apocalypse. Obama. Hillary. Fuck, Americans need to wake up....

Dong, you hit it right on the head, 100%.

Sadly, I agree with you completely.
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Originally Posted by raycarey

i think you're getting a bit ahead of yourself arnie. perhaps you bumped your head in your recent skiing accident.

too many people hate hillary. not dislike her or her positions, just simply hate her. i'd never support her in the primary because she's just too risky in the general election.

obama's too young. of course he could always end up as VP.

Hillary is very polarizing. Many cannot stand her. But she has a war chest and she's building it up. She's a part of the DNC machine. It's hard to stop.

I do not think Obama will be chosen as a VP because he's popular, charismatic, and might got a lot of attention, as a VP. VPs are supposed to be in the background, and be quiet. They basically do nothing.

However, if poll result showed a big bump, the (D) nominee might choose him, and make a deal for him to law-low and attend charity events occasionally.
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Originally Posted by spliff

All we need is for Jeb to step up...THROW DOWN JEB!!!!

Jeb is a lot more practical, smarter, and more of a real conservative (with spending) than George W.

But Jeb's national political career is over, and he rightly stated so in his "No Tengo Futuro" comment 2 weeks ago.

Heritage.

The Bush name.

The connection with a brother who has approval rating in the upper 20s.

He is finished and he's stated so.

Race is so important in American politics that it has even propelled a Chicago politician less than two years removed from the corruption-plagued Illinois state senate into the limelight of the upcoming Presidential race.

Obama is constantly compared to Tiger Woods. But he differs in two ways. First, his list of accomplishments in his chosen profession is a lot shorter than the golfer's. And, second, Woods rejected Nike's suggestion that he identify himself as solely black to maximize his marketability in America because he did not want to reject his mother and more distant non-black ancestors. Woods declared himself "Caublinasian," his childhood term for his Caucasian, black, American Indian, and Asian ancestry.

In contrast, like Oscar-winner Halle Berry, Obama identifies as black although that requires symbolically disowning his white mother and maternal grandparents—despite the fact that they did far more for him than the Kenyan father who abandoned him when he was two.

Obama writes: "I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."

That sounds quite self-sacrificial…but, oddly enough, it sure hasn't hurt his popularity with whites.

The brutal truth: Obama is a "wigger". He's a remarkably exotic variety of the faux African-American, but a wigger nonetheless. He has no ancestors who were slaves in the U.S. Moreover, his upbringing by his white mother and Indonesian stepfather in Indonesia and by his white grandparents in Hawaii, where mixed-race children are close to the norm, was almost wholly divorced from African-American life … except for what he could see and aspire to on TV.

Even genetically, Obama, whose East African descent is apparent in his unusual features, has only a distant relationship to the West Africans who are the ancestors of almost all African-Americans. But details like these just seem to make this nominal African-American that much more attractive to whites.

So why are so many whites, especially in the media, excited about promoting Obama for President in 2008?

The Barack Attack phenomenon is similar to the Colin Craze of 1995. Of course, General Powell had better qualifications. He'd been intimately involved in managing a successful national enterprise, the Gulf War of 1991. And he had articulated a thoughtful, cautious policy for when and how to conduct military operations, the Powell Doctrine, the wisdom of which subsequent events have only underlined.

Supporting Obama for President, like supporting Powell a decade ago, is seen by many whites as the ultimate in White Guilt Repellent.

It's important to understand, however, that White Guilt is very different from, say, Catholic Guilt, which consists of straightforward feelings of personal moral failure.

In comparison, I don't recall ever meeting any white person who personally felt guilty for the troubles of African-Americans. But I've known many whites who want to loudly blame other whites for black difficulties.

Some whites at least heap guilt upon their own ancestors, but many who publicly proclaim the reality of White Guilt aren't averse to noting that their own forefathers arrived at Ellis Island long after slavery was over.

In other words, White Guilt is just another ploy in the Great American White Status Struggle. Minorities are merely props for asserting moral superiority over other whites.

Finding and punishing Guilty Whites has become a national obsession. One notorious current example: the framing of the Duke lacrosse players by Durham district attorney Mike Nifong (with the enthusiastic assistance of the New York Times) in the endless hunt for what Tom Wolfe called "the Great White Defendant."

So, many whites want to be able to say, "I'm not one of them, those bad whites, like that guy on Seinfeld. Hey, I voted for a black guy for President!"

Plus, I suspect there's an even more hidden reason many whites wish Obama is elected President: They hope that when a black finally moves into the White House, it will prove to African-Americans, once and for all, that white animus isn't the cause of their troubles. All blacks have to do is to act like President Obama—and their problems will be over!

It's a seductive vision. And it plays right into our national dream that race is just skin deep, that it's all in our heads, that the solution for all racial conflict is simply thinking right thoughts, etc. etc.

Of course, electing Obama President won't actually have that effect on black behavior—any more than electing Tom Bradley mayor of Los Angeles for five terms in a row from 1973-1993 prevented black rioters from burning down much of the city's commercial districts in 1992.

The unfortunate reality: there is no panacea for race. The roots of racial differences in America stretch far back into the history and prehistory of other continents. Symbolic gestures won't make them go away.

http://www.vdare.com/sailer/070102_obamania.htm

Originally Posted by Arnold!

Hillary is very polarizing. Many cannot stand her.

Damn straight! If that bitch get's in, before she's thru you'll have folks crying to get George W. back! She is a power-hungry bastard and it scares the hell out of me!

Barak Obama...shit if the establishment media is so high on somebody like him, you know someone important has bought and paid for his black ass. Count on it!

Here's my man and I'll actually get back out and vote for him(absentee of course)!

Texas Congressman Ron Paul files for GOP presidential bid

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...l.2114595.html

http://www.house.gov/paul/

It's a seductive vision. And it plays right into our national dream that race is just skin deep, that it's all in our heads, that the solution for all racial conflict is simply thinking right thoughts, etc. etc.

The solution to all racial difference is to get men out of the picture and get middle aged women of different races together to swap receipes, complain about periods and talk about soap operas.

There's and article about Barak in a recent Harpers search for something like 'The Making of a Washington Machine'. Its worth the read.

Originally Posted by esoteric1

Damn straight! If that bitch get's in, before she's thru you'll have folks crying to get George W. back! She is a power-hungry bastard and it scares the hell out of me!

I don't like Hillary.

But I will vote for her in 2008.

No matter who is running against her.


She has defintately moved to the Center, or has appeared to have moved to the Center to attract enough of the Indies, and Radical Center.


What has George W. Bush done since he's been in office?

Honestly, NOTHING.


Health Care?

Education costs for "generaltion debt?"



I'll take Hillary any day.

Originally Posted by Arnold!

or has appeared to have moved to the Center

Hillary is a master of appearances, all gauged as to how they benefit Hillary. After all it's all about Hillary, in her mind.

I am still flabbergasted as to how a woman born and raised in Illinois, and then married to an Arkansas Governor where she lived for years, can go to New York and win a US Senatorship on her first try after never being elected to ANYTHING previously.

Carpetbagging power hungry bitch.....Mark my words, America will rue the day she becomes President.

Originally Posted by esoteric1

Carpetbagging power hungry bitch.....Mark my words, America will rue the day she becomes President.

Can it get any worse than now?

This is the stage we are at.

As for a carpetbagger, look at George W. Bush.

A governor of Texas for 6 years, who never travelled outside of Canada and Mexico for more than 10 days becomes and admits he "doesn't read books" becomes the President of the most powerful nation on Earth?

We can't go any lower.

Originally Posted by Arnold!

A governor of Texas for 6 years

Not even a real Texan to boot! Fcuker's an east coast blue blood trying to act like a good ol boy from Texas. Yup he's lower than a snake's belly, but Hillary can match him in lowness.


My man...1 of him is worth 100 Obamas!
http://www.kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5927748

Originally Posted by esoteric1

Not even a real Texan to boot! Fcuker's an east coast blue blood trying to act like a good ol boy from Texas. Yup he's lower than a snake's belly, but Hillary can match him in lowness.

Agree you on the fake Texan, bit.

W's Grandfather was Prescott Bush, a Connecticut blue blood Senator. G.H. was North Eastern, and so is W, really.