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Old 1st December 2008, 10:54   #61 (permalink)
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Just remember, not only has every American president in history been male and white, but only one has not been Protestant (and he had a shitload of Dad's money behind him).

To go from there to electing a black man.....well I wouldn't say it can't happen, but it would certainly represent a quantum leap.


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I have posted several times before that Barak Obama is a dead horse.


He is UNelectable.


He'll spark some discussion, get attention from the media, give a speech at the Democratic Convention, and then go back to the Senate.
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Unfortunately, Obama will not be the next Presidential candidate in the U.S. for several reasons.
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My friends Mark Fellhauer, Mike Wolters, and Mike Clark of Detroit's "Mike in the Morning" show on WRIF-FM spoke with the Kenyan Ambassador to the U.S. Peter Ogego and got him to admit, matter-of-factly, that Barack Hussein Obama was, indeed, born in Kenya. He also says they plan to mark his birthplace there. This is not a fake call. These guys don't do those. (The interview is almost 20 minutes, but the admission starts at 12:30 into the interview.) You can compare Ogego's voice with this video of a speech he made to verify that it is, indeed, him.

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"Here are some, but not all of the unanswered issues hanging over the head of Obama and the question of his eligibility:

• The allegation that Obama was born in Kenya to parents unable to automatically grant him American citizenship (after all, Grandma Sarah continues to claim she was in the delivery room);

• The allegation that Obama was made a citizen of Indonesia as an adopted child of an Indonesian citizen, and that he retained foreign citizenship into adulthood without recording an oath of allegiance to regain his American citizenship (a foreign adoption will do that to your children -- be careful who you marry ladies);

• The allegation that Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and that he may not be an eligible, natural-born citizen (comprehensive and irrefutable evidence of this counterfeit document will be on this page within the next few days);

• The allegation that Obama was not born an American citizen; lost any hypothetical American citizenship he had as a child; that Obama may not now be an American citizen and even if he is, may hold dual citizenships with other countries. If any, much less all, of these allegations are true, the suit claims, Obama cannot constitutionally serve as president (Obama admits on his own website that he was a Kenyan citizen at birth -- this AUDIO is just in -- the Kenyan Ambassador to the United States says that "it is already well known" that Obama was born in Kenya (start listening at 12:00 minutes into audio) );

• The allegations that Obama’s grandmother on his father’s side, half brother and half sister claim Obama was born in Kenya. Reports reflect Obama’s mother went to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy, which apparently was a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight. Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew to Hawaii and registered Obama’s birth (Hawaii's laws allows an amended birth certificate be filed by the parents of children born in a foreign country, so Obama could have been born anywhere and still have an amended Certificate of Live Birth in Hawaii.);

• The claim could not be verified by inquiries to Hawaiian hospitals, since state law bars the hospitals from releasing medical records to the public (not to mention that there are reports naming two different hospitals where Obama was born.);

Even if Obama produced authenticated proof of his birth in Hawaii, however, the suit claims that the U.S. Nationality Act of 1940 provided that minors lose their American citizenship when their parents expatriate. Since Obama’s mother married an Indonesian citizen, who adopted her son, and moved the family to Indonesia, the suit claims she forfeited both her and Barack’s American citizenship."

Semms hard to believe the media has kept silent, but supposedly: Obama has lived for 48 years without leaving any footprints -- none! There is no Obama documentation -- no records -- no paper trail -- none -- this can't be an accident.

Original, vault copy birth certificate -- Not released
Certificate of Live Birth -- Released -- Counterfeit
Obama/Dunham marriage license -- Not released
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license -- Not released
Soetoro adoption records -- Not released
Fransiskus Assisi School School application -- Released
Punahou School records -- Not released
Selective Service Registration -- Released -- Counterfeit
Occidental College records -- Not released
Passport (Pakistan) -- Not released
Columbia College records -- Not released
Columbia thesis -- Not released
Harvard College records -- Not released
Harvard Law Review articles -- None (maybe 1, unsigned?)
Baptism certificate -- None
Medical records -- Not released
Law practice client list -- Not released
Illinois State Senate records -- None
Illinois State Senate schedule -- Lost
University of Chicago syllabuses -- None
University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None


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Ha, that lawsuit is a joke. But thanks for the update from rightwing tinfoil hat land buddy.
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*puffs out cheeks and shakes head*

Anyway, talking of Obama....

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^^isn't the SCOTUS looking into something about that?

BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizenship heads to Supreme Court -- chicagotribune.com

haven't heard the current status
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Ha, that lawsuit is a joke. But thanks for the update from rightwing tinfoil hat land buddy.
This is no joke to U.S. citizens who believe the Constitution is their foremost protection from the U.S. State.

American people have a right to know if their next president is constitutionally eligible for the job.

"the law at the time Obama was born was that a birth mother could "transfer" US citizenship at birth even if the father was not a citizen and the child was born outside the US, but only if the mother had lived in the US for at least 5 years after the age of 14. Given that Obama's mother was not 19 at the time of his birth, if Obama was born in Kenya he is not legally eligible to be President."


View all Poll Comments: Do you believe the American people have a right to know if their next president is constitutionally eligible for the job?

Supposedly "24 potential Electors say they’re filing suit demanding evidence Obama eligibility

Electoral College Electors swear an oath to uphold the US Constitution. Voting for a presidential candidate, faced with compelling evidence that the candidate is not eligible to be president, would be a severe violation of constitutional law. The US Constitution rules. 24 potential Electors have stated that they were filing suit demanding evidence of Obama’s eligibility."
Supreme Court demands Obama eligibility validation documents | Tyranny Watch
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Constitution is their foremost protection from the U.S. State.
current President: "it's just a goddamned piece of paper"
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Just learned today that BO is a smoker! OMFG! His machine has managed to keep any photos of him puffing out of the news. That is quite an accomplishment. I wonder if a few photos of him sucking on a Marlboro would have been enough to swing the vote?

He says he is trying to quit, but he is gonna be sneaking out to the back porch of the White House for a drag every hour or so.
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^that's on the plus side

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but seriously there were pics out there:

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I don't see that as being a drawback though.

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Oh shoot ... Obama is already shaping up as 4 more years of Bush ...

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Do you have any credible sources, Grandpa?
What's Sean Hannity's take on all this?
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Bill Reilly and Rush Limbaugh haven't told him yet. Must be discussed with Ann Coulter prior to realease to Hannity.
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Bill Reilly and Rush Limbaugh haven't told him yet. Must be discussed with Ann Coulter prior to realease to Hannity.
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This is no joke to U.S. citizens who believe the Constitution is their foremost protection from the U.S. State.

American people have a right to know if their next president is constitutionally eligible for the job.
It has nothing to do with believing in the constitution. The lawsuit is a joke because the allegation is so clearly and demonstratively false. A birth certificate has been produced. Factcheck.org verified it. They also went back to review the local paper in Hawaii, and guess what? It has a birth announcement for Obama the day he was born. Fancy that.The man was born in the U.S. He is clearly eligible to be president.

FactCheck.org: Born in the U.S.A.

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Obama's birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser dated Aug. 13, 1961. I mean seriously folks, how big would this conspiracy need to be to fake something like that?

Anyone who is a "skeptic" should really read the article I linked to. It pretty much lays out all the claims and puts them to rest with things called facts.

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