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    Re: Is Hilary being edged out?

    Absolutely!

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    Re: Is Hilary being edged out?

    It is pretty much official that it is between Obama and McSame. I know who I am voting for.

    "The last thing we need in the White House is some black guy begging for change."

    Of course Obama!

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    Re: Is Hilary being edged out?

    together, lets make history, Obama for president.

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    Re: Is Hilary being edged out?

    The above posts are right. Obama is bankrolled by some major players. You think any nominee could have a serious chance of winning the presidency these days without big money? Of course not....

    That being said, can anyone name a better nominee to emerge from either party in the past thirty years? Let's face it. Obama is as close to a "normal guy" as we are going to get out of this process. Plus, he just "feels right for the times", if that makes sense.

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    Re: Is Hilary being edged out?

    ^those "major players" won't be wanting real change....you can take that to the bank.


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    Re: Is Hilary being edged out?

    Quote Originally Posted by redhaze View Post
    The above posts are right. Obama is bankrolled by some major players. You think any nominee could have a serious chance of winning the presidency these days without big money? Of course not....

    That being said, can anyone name a better nominee to emerge from either party in the past thirty years? Let's face it. Obama is as close to a "normal guy" as we are going to get out of this process. Plus, he just "feels right for the times", if that makes sense.
    No, it doesn't make sense. You have proven you know exactly two things about the American political process: jack and shit.

    Congratulations.

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    Re: Is Hilary being edged out?

    Quote Originally Posted by nuckingfutz View Post
    No, it doesn't make sense. You have proven you know exactly two things about the American political process: jack and shit.

    Congratulations.
    No, my friend....congratulations to you! Your wit and spot-on insults are simply not worthy of a lowly forum such as this. Find yourself a wider audience and ye shall truly find yourself in good stead.

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    Re: Is Hilary being edged out?

    Quote Originally Posted by redhaze View Post
    No, my friend....congratulations to you! Your wit and spot-on insults are simply not worthy of a lowly forum such as this. Find yourself a wider audience and ye shall truly find yourself in good stead.
    Now, I've already done that. I just love to come pet the animals once in a while.

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    Re: Is Hilary being edged out?

    nuckingfutz, where are you? come on out and playyyyy
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    Re: Is Hilary being edged out?

    Quote Originally Posted by esoteric1 View Post
    1) Ron Paul...although he's a little too old now too 2) Dennis Kucinich 3) Mike Gravel...also too old #2 I disagree with on a lot of things, but I think he's a good honest man at heart. but you see what the establishment media machine did to all three. coincidentally those were the three that had the strongest anti-war messages....go figure, eh?
    well, even though I agree that corporate America, which includes the broadcasters, has too much control over the American government, I think that is was great that Ron Paul was allowed to participate in the debates and stayed in the debates all the way till the end, even after others dropped out.

    So, yeah, he didn't get as much air time on the political talk shows as McCain and Romney, but he never polled very high, either.

    So, IMO, you're going to have to put the blame on the American people if you think that Ron Paul should be the Republican nominee. He was in all the debates, so if more Americans had paid attention to the debates and then went on-line to find out more about Ron Paul, then maybe he would have gotten more votes.

    But, in the end, America gets the government it deserves, as it were, don't you think?
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    Re: Is Hilary being edged out?

    Age, colour or gender - that's what the presidential race appears to be about in America.
    Has anyone mentioned really important stuff, like economic decline, environmental destruction, soaring food prices, educational mediocrity etc?
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    Re: Is Hilary being edged out?

    ^ Mate...are you mental....it's a personality/popularity contest...not a political one you nutter


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    Re: Is Hilary being edged out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    but he never polled very high, either.
    I trust those 'mainstream media' polls about as much as I trust electronic voting machines.

    Political junkies who watch the more obscure cable shows(and debates) were aware of Ron Paul's presence, but as far as much of anything in the newspapers or the 6 and 11 o'clock News....nada, zilch.

    EricC mentioned in his pic thread about his visit back home here in the US, that he saw more Ron Paul signs than any of the other candidates has been my experience as well while I'm on the road.

    He and the other candidates advocating anti-war, anti-interventionist policies were marginalized and frozen out by the corporate media.

    This man lays it out:

    YouTube - Media Caught Lying, Version2

    I posted more on this in another thread, showing the Google trend graphs this man is referring to.


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    Re: Is Hilary being edged out?

    Quote Originally Posted by esoteric1 View Post
    I trust those 'mainstream media' polls about as much as I trust electronic voting machines.
    yeah, I've been a strong opponent of those machines made by some dubious companies. In Washington State and some other states they do vote by mail and many states, including California dumped them.

    other than that, sure Ron Paul has very strong and very vocal support, including myself but talking with the average joe in America, they don't follow American politics very closely and don't even know who all the candidates running are, so, if they vote, they just vote for one of the few who are talked about in the mainstream media. American people could have watched all of those debates, heard what Ron Paul had to say and supported him, right? so, I still think that no matter how messed up America's democracy is, America still gets the government it deserves.

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    Re: Is Hilary being edged out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    America still gets the government it deserves.
    yup I agree on that completely.


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