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Old 29th June 2008, 12:25   #1 (permalink)
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Has Bush already launched the U.S. into war against Iran?

On Faux News Sunday (22 June 2008), neo-con pundit and editor/publisher of The Weekly Standard, Bill Kristol, suggested that Bush might be inclined to launch a military strike against Iran, either before or after the election, if he thought Obama would beat McCain.




Now, it turns out Congress provided funding to allow Bush to conduct extensive covert actions inside Iran designed to topple the regime. I am amazed at how this Congress keeps granting Bush unfettered war powers.

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U.S. escalating covert operations against Iran - report

NEW YORK (Reuters, 29 June 2008) - U.S. congressional leaders agreed late last year to President George W. Bush's funding request for a major escalation of covert operations against Iran aimed at destabilizing its leadership, according to a report in The New Yorker magazine published online on Sunday.

The article by reporter Seymour Hersh, from the magazine's July 7 and 14 issue, centers around a highly classified Presidential Finding signed by Bush which by U.S. law must be made known to Democratic and Republican House and Senate leaders and ranking members of the intelligence committees.

"The Finding was focused on undermining Iran's nuclear ambitions and trying to undermine the government through regime change," the article cited a person familiar with its contents as saying, and involved "working with opposition groups and passing money."

Hersh has written previously about possible administration plans to go to war to stop Tehran from obtaining nuclear weapons, including an April 2006 article in the New Yorker that suggested regime change in Iran, whether by diplomatic or military means, was Bush's ultimate goal.

Funding for the covert escalation, for which Bush requested up to $400 million, was approved by congressional leaders, according to the article, citing current and former military, intelligence and congressional sources.

Clandestine operations against Iran are not new. U.S. Special Operations Forces have been conducting crossborder operations from southern Iraq since last year, the article said.

These have included seizing members of Al Quds, the commando arm of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and taking them to Iraq for interrogation, and the pursuit of "high-value targets" in Bush's war on terrorism, who may be captured or killed, according to the article.

But the scale and the scope of the operations in Iran, which include the Central Intelligence Agency, have now been significantly expanded, the article said, citing current and former officials.

Many of these activities are not specified in the new finding, and some congressional leaders have had serious questions about their nature, it said.

Among groups inside Iran benefiting from U.S. support is the Jundallah, also known as the Iranian People's Resistance Movement, according to former CIA officer Robert Baer. Council on Foreign Relations analyst Vali Nasr described it to Hersh as a vicious organization suspected of links to al Qaeda.

The article said U.S. support for the dissident groups could prompt a violent crackdown by Iran, which could give the Bush administration a reason to intervene.

None of the Democratic leaders in Congress would comment on the finding, the article said. The White House, which has repeatedly denied preparing for military action against Iran, and the CIA also declined comment.

The United States is leading international efforts to rein in Iran's suspected effort to develop nuclear weapons, although Washington concedes Iran has the right to develop nuclear power for civilian uses.
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Wouldn't surprise me. The man is possessed.
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Old 29th June 2008, 13:23   #3 (permalink)
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Scary times, scary times.
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Old 29th June 2008, 18:13   #4 (permalink)
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Israel has a year to stop Iran bomb, warns ex-spy - Telegraph

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A former head of Mossad has warned that Israel has 12 months in which to destroy Iran's nuclear programme or risk coming under nuclear attack itself. He also hinted that Israel might have to act sooner if Barack Obama wins the US presidential election.
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He warned that while it would be preferable to have American support and participation in a strike on Iran, Israel will not be afraid to go it alone.
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Old 29th June 2008, 18:18   #5 (permalink)
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Israel has a year to stop Iran bomb, warns ex-spy - Telegraph
American and British papers are both running the story. When I see that headline, I think wow Dubya's "war on terror" and "us vs. them" that he started after 911 has really sunk into the western mindset.

also, saw this headine: Israel has 'year to destroy Iran's nuclear program'...

Can you imagine a headline "Iran has a year to destroy Israel's nuclear program"?

or "If Israel doesn't open up it's Dimona secret nuclear weapons site to the IAEA, then Iran will bomb Israel"?

such double standards and racism in the western media, IMO.

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"Iran has a year to destroy Israel's nukes"

would be a bit of a feather ruffler wouldn't it?
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would be a bit of a feather ruffler wouldn't it?
Imagine the screams of anti-semitism. The paper that ran the story would be criticized by western governments and other western mainstream media alike.
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Iran sez there could be ramifications and repercussions:

Iran says Gulf oil route at risk if attacked | Reuters
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At the risk of sounding paranoid, this seriously begs the question "Do you think WWIII is upon us in the near future?"
Or is it possible this is a scheme to make Obama supporters think twice? (the thing about Israel I mean)
I`m not trying to pick a fight, it`s just that I can`t help but wonder.
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neo-cons say we're already in World War 4 against most of the middle eastern Muslim countries. They think WW 3 was the cold war against the soviet union. see Xtrafresh's "my neo-conservative viewpoints" thread.

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At the risk of sounding paranoid, this seriously begs the question "Do you think WWIII is upon us in the near future?"
Or is it possible this is a scheme to make Obama supporters think twice? (the thing about Israel I mean)
I`m not trying to pick a fight, it`s just that I can`t help but wonder.
Oh, it's coming ...for sure. Sooner than later, I'm afraid.
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Oh, it's coming ...for sure. Sooner than later, I'm afraid.
It's started, it's just slow motion (decade or more), so we don't notice too much.
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