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robitusson · 19th July 2008, 14:19

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I just love it when people challenge me and when I prove people wrong. That is the story of my life in a nutshell.

You can't spell.

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I shed to pieces

Prove me wrong.

redhaze · 19th July 2008, 14:30

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As for GWB....you gotta do better then allegations. I want hard facts.

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Hopefully the link above will work if you click on it. Here is a weird excerpt:

McClellan whose Secret Service code name was "Matrix" - tells how one evening in 1999 he and Bush were in a hotel suite "somewhere in the Midwest" when the Republican candidate, on the phone with a supporter, motioned for him to take a seat.
According to McClellan: "'The media won't let go of these ridiculous cocaine rumors,' I heard Bush say. 'You know, the truth is I honestly don't remember whether I tried it or not. We had some pretty wild parties back in the day, and I just don't remember.'"
"I remember thinking to myself, How can that be? How can someone simply not remember whether or not they used an illegal substance like cocaine? It didn't make a lot of sense."
Bush, McClellan writes, "isn't the kind of person to flat-out lie". Therefore "I think he meant what he said in that conversation about cocaine. It's the first time when I felt I was witnessing Bush convincing himself to believe something that probably was not true, and that, deep down, he knew was not true."

Not exactly ironclad, but pretty amusing and sounds about right.

Xtrafresh · 19th July 2008, 14:31

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You can't spell.

Prove me wrong.

With pleasure.....what word is not spelled correctly? Oh i see...it is a grammatical problem....but wait you said it was a spelling problem. NEXT

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McClellan whose Secret Service code name was "Matrix" - tells how one evening in 1999 he and Bush were in a hotel suite "somewhere in the Midwest" when the Republican candidate, on the phone with a supporter, motioned for him to take a seat.
According to McClellan: "'The media won't let go of these ridiculous cocaine rumors,' I heard Bush say. 'You know, the truth is I honestly don't remember whether I tried it or not. We had some pretty wild parties back in the day, and I just don't remember.'"
"I remember thinking to myself, How can that be? How can someone simply not remember whether or not they used an illegal substance like cocaine? It didn't make a lot of sense."
Bush, McClellan writes, "isn't the kind of person to flat-out lie". Therefore "I think he meant what he said in that conversation about cocaine. It's the first time when I felt I was witnessing Bush convincing himself to believe something that probably was not true, and that, deep down, he knew was not true."

Not exactly ironclad, but pretty amusing and sounds about right.

At least you can admit that this is not ironclad. Perhaps there is still hope left for you after all.

redhaze · 19th July 2008, 14:35

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At least you can admit that this is not ironclad. Perhaps there is still hope left for you after all.

You're delusional. You do realize that, don't you?

robitusson · 19th July 2008, 14:47

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Oh i see...it is a grammatical problem....but wait you said it was a spelling problem.

Since when is "shred" spelled s-h-e-d?

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MisterStretch · 19th July 2008, 15:20

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Seriously, I love going in a liberal areas and causing a ruckus. University was a blast.....always had my liberal professors in a bind.

I seriously doubt your professors were ever in a bind because of your political leanings/opinions because they were probably expressed like this:

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He is a improvement over the likes of Jesse Jackson / Al Sharpton and the NCAAP.

Which smacks of poorly educated white trash - at least as far as grammar and factual knowledge are concerned.
It should read: He is an improvement over the likes of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and the NAACP (It's the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, you twit...get the acronym right, at least).

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I just love it when people challenge me and I prove them wrong.

Well, it hasn't happened on this thread but please feel free to point it out to us when and if it ever does happen.

Xtrafresh · 19th July 2008, 15:49

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Since when is "shred" spelled s-h-e-d?

You're a fool.

I would consider that a grammatical mistake since there is a word "s.h.e.d". Besides do you think I am going to admit a mistake to the likes of you?

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I seriously doubt your professors were ever in a bind because of your political leanings/opinions because they were probably expressed like this:

If you only knew....

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Which smacks of poorly educated white trash - at least as far as grammar and factual knowledge are concerned.

To be completely honest with you M.S, I do not place to much emphasis on grammar/spelling when I post. I consider most forums to be a very casual place to kick back and relax. Now if I was writing a paper or doing a disquisition than I would care and my writing style would drastically change.

I find it quite funny that liberals much rather debate me on my grammar than debate me on political/historical (is it ok for me to casually use "/"?) facts.

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It should read: He is an improvement over the likes of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and the NAACP (It's the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, you twit...get the acronym right, at least).

wow....i got the acronym wrong. Sue me.

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Well, it hasn't happened on this thread but please feel free to point it out to us when and if it ever does happen.

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cluezo · 20th July 2008, 02:04

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Perfect picture of the unholy couple.

My god- you don't even know that you're an idiot. Must be bliss...

MisterStretch · 20th July 2008, 07:06

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#45

I went to number 45 and don't see any conclusive evidence that you are correct in your assumptions about 'big time drug use' for the very reason that you cited, the structure of the wording is not actually and admission of usage. I continued in number 45 and noticed this:

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As for me I never have tasted alcohol in my life before nor have I experimented with any heavy drugs. I have smoked exactly three cigarettes in my entire life and I have only been drunk once. (didn't know that the apple juice that i was drinking had fermented).

Actually if you drank fermented apple juice you have in fact tasted alcohol, this is an admitted usage, however unintentional. You're wording is a clear admission of guilt, unlike the wording you would like to persecute Obama for.

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I do not place to much emphasis on grammar/spelling when I post. I consider most forums to be a very casual place to kick back and relax. Now if I was writing a paper or doing a disquisition than I would care and my writing style would drastically change.

Good thing, that, because the word is "then".

X, you still haven't proven your contentions as you said. The difference between you and the posters that oppose your opinions in this matter seem to be ones of degree. We don't consider pot usage (even 'heavy' pot usage) to be the admission of 'hard and heavy' drug usage.

Retreat while you can. You made an error in judgement in your initial thrust and you've have been parried efficiently by your opponents. As far as anyone fighting your position with 'facts', you have presented no 'facts' with which we need to disagree or disprove.

Xtrafresh · 20th July 2008, 09:16

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X, you still haven't proven your contentions as you said. The difference between you and the posters that oppose your opinions in this matter seem to be ones of degree. We don't consider pot usage (even 'heavy' pot usage) to be the admission of 'hard and heavy' drug usage.

Retreat while you can. You made an error in judgement in your initial thrust and you've have been parried efficiently by your opponents. As far as anyone fighting your position with 'facts', you have presented no 'facts' with which we need to disagree or disprove.

What do you consider a 'hard and heavy' drug? Like you I do not consider pot to be a heavy drug. Obama has admitted to using coke when he could afford it. While he has not admitted to using heroin he has not flat out denied it either. On a side note I do not consider pot to be a "heavy" drug.

Retreat? Retreat from the truth? bah! Cocaine is a big time drug whether or not you have the balls to admit it.

Lotuslevi · 20th July 2008, 09:51

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I just love it when people challenge me and I prove them wrong. That is the story of my life in a nutshell.
You have not proven me wrong.

Now let me rephrase the two sentences with the same grammatical structure but a different subject matter to help make this clearer:

I had learned to fall asleep at a good hour... Warm milk had helped, and dimming the lights; maybe a sleeping pill when there was one around. Not television, though.

Wouldn't you infer from that sentence that I had tried watching television as a way of falling asleep? And does it also not reveal a rather awkward reliance on the passive voice to distance myself from my past actions? Obama is speaking on the larger subject of how he used many drugs to help him dull his pain. He goes on to list the drugs that helped (clearly meaning that he had used them). Then comes the fragment Not smack, though - which should properly be read to include the verb "help" as well:

"Smack did not help, though."

Obama doesn't want to be caught in a lie someday, so he left an escape hatch in the logical structure of his phrasing. If someone appears with credible allegations that he used heroin (of course, the most taboo drug on his list), Obama can quite easily dodge the bullet. You`re really trying to stretch it with this one! I do see the point you`re trying to make, but it`s not srtong enough.

I used to work at a semi private school downtown Baltimore. The vast majority of the students were placed there by the juvenile court system. It was so bad that every day we had to pat down the students to make sure that they did not bring any drugs/weapons to school. There were plenty of fights between the students over drugs. Most of the teachers/assistants at this school grew up in "the hood" and at one time or another used these drugs. All of them will testify that coke and heroin are not recreational drugs.
Try actually being in the presence of somebody using coke and then you can say what you want. Coke and Heiron are two completely different drugs.

As for me I never have tasted alcohol in my life before nor have I experimented with any heavy drugs. I have smoked exactly three cigarettes in my entire life and I have only been drunk once. (didn't know that the apple juice that i was drinking had fermented). My biggest addiction is caffeine. Guess it is true that liberals are 5x more likely to be drug users than conservatives. Newsmax.com - Are Liberals Bigger Drug Users?
How did you get drunk without tasting the alcohol you drank?

As for GWB....you gotta do better then allegations. I want hard facts. What, you mean more than you reaching for so-called grammatical errors?

You are a real peice of work, you know that? You have no evidence that Obama did heiron, but you`ve twisted this the way you want it to say that did in fact use smack, THAT`S NOT ENOUGH PROOF YOU FUCKWIT! Nobody cares if you`ve done drugs or not or if you worked around them. I have actually indulged in them and been in the presence of people using them. Bush Jr used them, Clinton used them as well. One was a good president, the other was a shit one....THIS PART OF ONE`S PAST HAS NO BEARING ON ONE`S ABILITY TO DO THE JOB!
The only difference between you and Nuckingfutz is that you`re slightly more polite.

MisterStretch · 20th July 2008, 10:04

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What do you consider a 'hard and heavy' drug? Like you I do not consider pot to be a heavy drug. Obama has admitted to using coke when he could afford it.

Sorry, but his admission of 'trying cocaine' doesn't constitute hard and heavy drug use.

You don't have a prima facie argument here. You only have an strongly opinionated one. If he had admitted being a cocaine addict or blowing all of his salary on blow or stealing from his grandmother's purse to feed a coke habit that would be a different story.

I, too, tried cocaine amongst some other things, when I was younger. My experimentation doesn't constitute hard and heavy drug use any more than Barack Obama's admission.

As I said, you don't have a prima facie argument. Feel free to keep your opinions and express them, just don't expect anyone to accept them as 'fact' because they don't meet the criteria.

Lotuslevi · 20th July 2008, 10:12

Also, having sampled the potent white powder in my past (among other things), I would like to second this statement by Mr Stretch and furthermore explain that I have never had an addiction problem with anything, have never been to rehab, and currently do not drink anymore out of choice. I would like to state that my past usage too, does not constitute hardcore drug problems.