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Xtrafresh · 3rd August 2008, 17:25

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Originally Posted by Lotuslevi

I am not a Zionist but I don`t want to see Israel gone either.

If we follow the suggestions of some of the Ajarn posters (ie larkinny, farang, zehner, robi) than Israel will cease to exist.

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Originally Posted by Lotuslevi

Of course anti-semitism exists and will always, just like racism on all fronts against blacks, Muslims...the list goes on.

Agreed 100%

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Originally Posted by Lotuslevi

Some humans are even more ignorant than you.

Insults again?

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Originally Posted by Lotuslevi

I am not going to defend what I see as a few men breaking treaties and land barriers and aggravating attacks with no regard to the reaction of their neighbors for the sake of religion. You should see the documentry Israel and the Arabs: Elusive Peace, it is extremely unbiased and will put a lot of things in perspective.

I will watch that documentary if you will watch Farewell Israel: Bush, Iran and the Revolt of Islam

Btw, no one is extremely unbiased when it comes to the Middle East and Israel.

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Originally Posted by Lotuslevi

I do believe you were rational enough to see Iraq as a bad idea, but you still give Dubya credit while he is what most Americans have come to see as the worst president in the latter half of the 20th century.

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The Worst President in History?

Liberals claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war. They complain about his prosecution of it. One liberal recently claimed Bush was the worst president in U.S. history. Let's clear up one point:
We didn't start the war on terror. Try to remember, it was started by terrorists BEFORE 9/11.
Let's look at the "worst" president and mismanagement claims. FDR led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us: Japan did.

From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year.

Truman finished that war and started one in Korea, North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,333 per year.

John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost an average of 5,800 per year.
Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent, Bosnia never attacked us.
He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing.

Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions. In the two years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Lybia, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. We lost 600 soldiers, an average of 30 a year. Bush did all this abroad while not allowing another terrorist attack at home. Worst president in history? Come on!

The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but...It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51 day operation. And almost all in the compound were killed and they were Americans.

We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Teddy Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.
It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida

Worst President in History? Not by a long shot.

George Bush, the worst President in History

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A cry for help goes out from a city beleaguered by violence and fear: A beam of light flashed into the night sky, the dark symbol of a bat projected onto the surface of the racing clouds . . .

Oh, wait a minute. That's not a bat, actually. In fact, when you trace the outline with your finger, it looks kind of like . . . a "W."

There seems to me no question that the Batman film "The Dark Knight," currently breaking every box office record in history, is at some level a paean of praise to the fortitude and moral courage that has been shown by George W. Bush in this time of terror and war. Like W, Batman is vilified and despised for confronting terrorists in the only terms they understand. Like W, Batman sometimes has to push the boundaries of civil rights to deal with an emergency, certain that he will re-establish those boundaries when the emergency is past.

And like W, Batman understands that there is no moral equivalence between a free society -- in which people sometimes make the wrong choices -- and a criminal sect bent on destruction. The former must be cherished even in its moments of folly; the latter must be hounded to the gates of Hell.

What Bush and Batman Have in Common - WSJ.com

Two powerful articles.

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Originally Posted by Lotuslevi

If nothing else, I want to make one thing absolutely clear to you. I do not make special reservations for people just because they are fellow Jews. I treat everybody with an equal amount of respect based on the respect they show for me and those around them, so don`t think I`m going to look at you any different than I would if you were a Christian (or a Muslim for that matter).

Are you suggesting that I have not shown you any respect? Over the past three months I have tangled with a number of posters on the Ajarn website and I have always tried to be extremely respectful. We may not see eye to eye and we may hold polar opposite viewpoints but we can still be respectful to one another.

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Originally Posted by Lotuslevi

It seriously pisses me off when Jews only look out for other Jews rather than the world at large and it`s what I feel is strongly responsible for Israel`s current problems.

The world by and large has had a bad history of treating Jews humanely. If you want to place you trust with the world....all the more power to you. Don't be surprised when you find a knife in your back.

Shalom

redhaze · 3rd August 2008, 17:25

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Originally Posted by Xtrafresh

I have quite clearly maintained that he was a drug user (please note the word "was) but is no longer an addict.

Earlier in the post, Xtra noted how he had never tried drugs or had a drink. I think that makes sense.

That is the only way to explain crazy quotes like the one above. It is very clear Xtra has no experience with drugs in any capacity. Good on ya son, but it hardly makes you qualified to make statements like the above.

It is very clear that you just really don't have a clue. It isn't a disagreement at this point, and it isn't about politics either. There's just such a thing as being wrong and badly misinformed. Your posts on this subject clearly fall into that category.

Xtrafresh · 3rd August 2008, 17:32

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Originally Posted by redhaze

Earlier in the post, Xtra noted how he had never tried drugs or had a drink. I think that makes sense.

That is the only way to explain crazy quotes like the one above. It is very clear Xtra has no experience with drugs in any capacity. Good on ya son, but it hardly makes you qualified to make statements like the above.

It is very clear that you just really don't have a clue. It isn't a disagreement at this point, and it isn't about politics either. There's just such a thing as being wrong and badly misinformed. Your posts on this subject very clearly fall into that category.

So only people who have tried drugs can make that statement? I have personally seen the effects of drugs in my biological family. The first six years of my life I spent with an abusive mother and many of nights we were homeless. I still remember going through dumpsters for can and food outside of various apartment complexes.....all because of drugs and alcohol.

Xtra

aging one · 3rd August 2008, 17:35

Bummer about your mom being a hard core user. But remember you are the one who told us this. Obama in his book told us that he has tried smoke and coke. Big difference. My guess is alcohol is was a bigger problem.

Nick · 3rd August 2008, 17:38

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Originally Posted by Xtrafresh

Two powerful articles.

Really? The first one refers to Barack Obama as Osama, and the other equates Bush with Batman.

I'd choose a somewhat different adjective to describe them, like gash.

redhaze · 3rd August 2008, 17:40

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Originally Posted by Nick

Really? The first one refers to Barack Obama as Osama, and the other equates Bush with Batman.

robitusson · 3rd August 2008, 17:49

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Originally Posted by Xtrafresh

If we follow the suggestions of some of the Ajarn posters (ie larkinny, farang, zehner, robi) than Israel will cease to exist.

More lies. I've never questioned Israel's privilege to exist. You're a liar Xtra.

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Originally Posted by Xtrafresh

Insults again?

"ignorant" means lacking in knowledge. It's not an insult, it's true in your case.

Xtrafresh · 3rd August 2008, 18:00

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Originally Posted by robitusson

More lies. I've never questioned Israel's privilege to exist. You're a liar Xtra.

I really do think that you need to improve your reading comprehension. Where did I ever say that you questioned 'Israel's privilege to exist'?

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Originally Posted by robitusson

"ignorant" means lacking in knowledge. It's not an insult, it's true in your case.

The kettle calling the pot black aye?

Nick · 3rd August 2008, 18:03

A powerful post there, Xtrafresh.

kingdomcome · 3rd August 2008, 18:10

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Originally Posted by Xtrafresh

I have personally seen the effects of drugs in my biological family. The first six years of my life I spent with an abusive mother and many of nights we were homeless. I still remember going through dumpsters for can and food outside of various apartment complexes.....all because of drugs and alcohol.

Xtra

And yet you're still a republican....hmmm...........

Xtrafresh · 3rd August 2008, 18:10

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Originally Posted by Nick

Really? The first one refers to Barack Obama as Osama, and the other equates Bush with Batman.

I'd choose a somewhat different adjective to describe them, like gash.

Barack Obama was never mentioned in the first article.

robitusson · 3rd August 2008, 18:11

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Originally Posted by Xtrafresh

Where did I ever say that you questioned 'Israel's privilege to exist'?

Alzeimhers is it Xtra?

Don't worry, I'll help.

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Originally Posted by Xtrafresh

If we follow the suggestions of some of the Ajarn posters (ie larkinny, farang, zehner, robi) than Israel will cease to exist.

Remember now?

(Just lie if you don't know how how to answer properly.)

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Originally Posted by Xtrafresh

The kettle calling the pot black aye?

Eh no. Me explaining the distinction between an observation (Lotus, and everyone else, thinks you're ignorant) and an insult (you're a dipshit).

Nick · 3rd August 2008, 18:13

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Originally Posted by Xtrafresh

Barack Obama was never mentioned in the first article.

You got me there. Sloppy and presumptuous.

Farangrakthai · 3rd August 2008, 18:15

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