Nick

Mate, I've had a couple of wanks already today. Where's my red?!

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Farangrakthai

can you get one in refuse's wankers club?

"land for peace", giving up the west bank, means that Israel will be a "democratic and Jewish state" b.t.w. not cease to exist.

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Xtrafresh

Ahh yes..... I remember now. I remember saying that if we followed your suggestions / recommendations than Israel will cease to exist...which of course is my opinion. I never said the destruction of Israel was your personal opinion. Please learn to differentiate the two.



Oh yeaaahh... I am red. Guess I must be doing something right

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Nick

You should work in Public Relations.

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Xtrafresh

Two times the Palestinians have been offered a state and two times they have refused. The five main settlement blocs will remain under Israeli control and be settled by Israelis. To try to to force the 250,000 Israelis from these blocs will result in a civil war within Israel pitting Jews against Jews. That will not happen.

Israel does not have to give one square inch of the West Bank. You have never refuted the 1922 League of Nations Mandate and Article 80 of the UN Charter. Technically speaking Israel owns every square inch of the West Bank and is under no legal obligation whatsoever to cede land. Furthermore, one could argue that this is land that Israel won in a defensive war. If you attack a country and lose than you should expect some severe repercussions (ie: land loss). Is this not how European nations have established their current borders?


There will not be a land for peace deal until Hamas / Fatah recognizes the right for Israel to exist. Period. The proposal from Saudi Arabia does not do this.

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For those who has not figured it out I do not give up easily. I thrive in atmospheres in which I am going against the flow. Unlike prez and Nut and a number of other Ajarn posters, I typically stay away from insults. Expect to see more of me in the coming months upholding conservative values and supporting Israel at every level. Like Rush, I love pissing liberals off.


Thanks for your wonderful suggestions Nick.


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Farangrakthai

we've already discussed this (Israel has not recognized a state of Palestine with borders, either) and I'm not going to debate you anymore as you treat the debate like a football game where you are a fanatical supporter, waving your team flag, shouting "I shred to pieces all of Farang's arguments" I don't care for that type of juvenile debate.

anyway, this is off the topic of "Obami" as you refer to him. so, it's better if you open up your "neo-con viewpoints" thread to see if others would like to debate your neo-con, Zionist views there, IMO.

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Xtrafresh

absolutely. What I disclosed is just a small portion of my upbringing. The tip of a very large iceberg kingdomcome. Never judge a book by its cover.

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jimbo

Afterall conservatives never do.

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panhunger

What's the difference between an aspiring filmmaker making a pitch at some studio and a man running for President of the USA? Absolutely fucking nothing! If you've ever watch Buck Adams make his movie pitch in that scene in The Player, you'll know what I mean.

Politicians and filmmakers will say and do almost anything to get what they want.

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jimbo

Soap Box Quote of the YEAR!!~!

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Xtrafresh

How can Israel recognize something that has never before existed? There has never been a country known as Palestine. There has never been an international agreement upholding any borders for a Palestian state. However, there has been such an agreement for Israel. Not once have you touched upon the 1922 agreement. Not once have you touched upon article 80 of the UN charter. You have refused to address these two issues. Instead you accuse me of "academic dishonesty" because you know that these two points would undermine every single position that you have so loudly advocated in regards to Israel.



Yes I am a fanatical supporter of Israel. I am a fanatical supporter of democracy and of liberty. I am not a Zionist and I am horrified when I see settlers abusing Palestinians. Thats the biggest difference between the Israelis and the Palestinians. The Israelis are taught at an early age to respect and cherish life wherefore the Palestinians are hell bent on teaching their youth to murder every single Israelite through suicide bombings. Xtra

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redhaze

You just called Aging One senile, then told him to shut up. That was like five posts ago.

Farangrakthai

so, you're against "land for peace" I get it. But, for Israel to be a "democratic and Jewish" state, Israel will have to give up land for peace. otherwise the choice are to make all Palestinians in the west bank and Gaza "Arab Israelis" then Israel won't be maj