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Old 11th October 2008, 11:52   #901 (permalink)
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Well they can still say that she has the executive power to fire her staff for cause.

Even though she abused her power, those who support her still go on and say that she is a hard charging governer.

This is turn out to be really bad for the Republicans, if you ask me. Sen. McCain could have picked anyone but I guess that's why he's a self proclaimed "Maverick".

Obama should have a double digit lead by the sun rise.
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Old 11th October 2008, 12:24   #902 (permalink)
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A maverick is some kind of unruly cow.

Is that really how young Sarah wants to describe herself?
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if the shoe fits and all that.....
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Old 11th October 2008, 16:32   #904 (permalink)
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^^ thanks for that TC, i made a learnin' today


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holy cow! could you imagine a President Palin?

"It's like, oh my God, you know I have an Israeli flag in my governor's office, you know Jesus is coming back soon, maybe to Alaska, maybe to Jerusalem, so Israel is like the best ally of America in spreading democracy to the Arabs and in bringing back Jesus. They want me to nuke Iran, of course, I will, it's in Revelations."

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In the crucial final weeks of the campaign John McCain is mostly doing only one event a day. This is the man of whom his primary care physician at the Mayo Clinic in Arizona, said to journalists in a conference call last May 23: “At the present time, Sen. McCain enjoys excellent health and displays extraordinary energy.” He looked tired and sick in the second debate in Nashville. As Sarah Palin rabble-rouses the crowds with calls for Obama to be forthright, she may be wondering, “how forthright has John McCain been with me? If he wins on November 4, will I be president in six months or a year?”

But if McCain’s battle with melanoma has suddenly turned critical, wouldn’t his doctors feel compelled to divulge their knowledge about the candidate? The answer is No. The legal penalties under HIPAA (the medical privacy act) for disclosure of protected health information, without that patient’s consent, are extremely serious.

No one is more under day-to-day scrutiny than the President. When Reagan ran for re-election he already knew he had colon cancer and that was kept quiet until after he won. In health matters, secrecy often wins out in the political crunch. What follows are the essentials of a story by Fred Gardner and myself in the latest issue of our CounterPunch newsletter.

Attempting to confirm this intelligence, CounterPunch contacted four physicians, none of whom want to be identified. Two remarked the subsidence of swelling in McCain’s left jaw in recent months. A UC San Francisco cancer specialist said, “It looked to me like he had something going on in his left jaw for a long time, and then it appeared much less puffy in the last few months. My theory was that he had gotten some radiation therapy. It was way pooched out compared to what it is now. He used to not show his left side on camera.

And then he appeared to be going head-on. So my guess was that he had had some radiation.”
An East Coast oncologist said of John Wayne Cancer Institute in Santa Monica, California, “That would be the place he’d go because the world’s expert surgeon for melanoma, Donald Morton, is there.” Dr. Morton, while head of surgical oncology at UCLA, developed a technique that minimizes the number of lymph nodes that must be removed during biopsies.

A Los Angeles radiologist put the question of McCain being treated directly to two colleagues at John Wayne.


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Old 12th October 2008, 10:01   #907 (permalink)
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Re: McCain Palin

Interesting article from a Kiwi comedian/journalist living in London...I thought it raises some interesting points about McCain/Palin:
Raybon Kan: True grit vital in bimbo battle - Sunday Star-Times - Sunday Star-Times
The American people are this close to electing a 72-year-old man (with a history of cancer, no less) to be president. Now, if a 72-year-old man showed up applying for any job making photocopies, driving a bus, stirring your coffee surely, you'd gently file his CV in the recycle bin.
But President?
Well, that's different. Looking old is a plus. It reminds people of earlier presidents, who were so old, they appeared in black-and-white.
The job description of president is to be presidential. Image is substance. Can you talk on TV comfortably? Always finish a sentence, yet never say anything?
You're hired.
That means Sarah Palin (who at best should be a weather presenter, or if she had more education in science, the face of Natural Glow), shockingly, is half a tumour away from the American presidency.
She's a fundamentalist bimbo. She makes other fundamentalists look thoughtful.
Palin's prospect of being the first woman president, and her hilarious lack of qualifications, shows the grip reality TV has on America. Because she's pretty, her triumph would be against the odds. And that's good TV.
They should call the election America's Got Politicians.
If I was choosing America's first woman president, I'd go for Hillary Clinton. Ellen DeGeneres. Tyra Banks. Even Britney. At least Britney has travelled outside America.
How about someone with intelligence? Judgement? Having a clue?
I know, Ronald Reagan.
I suppose you're right. Presidents can't all be brainboxes like George W Bush, with his Harvard MBA and history degree from Yale. Those schools don't let just anybody in.
He's so good he won even with fewer votes. That's a good politician. And he's bringing democracy to Iraq. Yet oddly, not to Saudi Arabia.
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A voter shows their mentality. 51 sec

It's obvious he's pretty much resigned to losing in this clip too.
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jesus please dont jinx this robo


theres still a lot of nastiness left though....im crossing my fingers we've seen the worst of it. fucking 3.5 weeks left eh
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Jinx what man? It's like Alien vs. Predator. Whoever wins, the American people lose. Wouldn't worry about it. No-one's gonna vote for that wrinkly, old, silver-haired twat with that slut he's running with.


Nice display of ignorance from one of his audience members though. "He's a...uh...uh...he's an Arab. He's not? No?"
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Old 12th October 2008, 20:32   #911 (permalink)
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Here's an interesting article from Christopher Buckley, (Wm. Buckley's son):

Sorry, Dad, I'm Voting for Obama - The Daily Beast

Here are the first couple of paragraphs:

The son of William F. Buckley has decided—shock!—to vote for a Democrat. Let me be the latest conservative/libertarian/whatever to leap onto the Barack Obama bandwagon. It’s a good thing my dear old mum and pup are no longer alive. They’d cut off my allowance.
Or would they? But let’s get that part out of the way. The only reason my vote would be of any interest to anyone is that my last name happens to be Buckley—a name I inherited. So in the event anyone notices or cares, the headline will be: “William F. Buckley’s Son Says He Is Pro-Obama.” I know, I know: It lacks the throw-weight of “Ron Reagan Jr. to Address Democratic Convention,” but it’ll have to do.
Dear Pup once said to me, “You know, I’ve spent my entire life time separating the Right from the kooks.”
I am—drum roll, please, cue trumpets—making this announcement in the cyberpages of The Daily Beast (what joy to be writing for a publication so named!) rather than in the pages of National Review, where I write the back-page column. For a reason: My colleague, the superb and very dishy Kathleen Parker, recently wrote in National Review Online a column stating what John Cleese as Basil Fawlty would call “the bleeding obvious”: namely, that Sarah Palin is an embarrassment, and a dangerous one at that. She’s not exactly alone. New York Times columnist David Brooks, who began his career at NR, just called Governor Palin “a cancer on the Republican Party.”
As for Kathleen, she has to date received 12,000 (quite literally) foam-at-the-mouth hate-emails. One correspondent, if that’s quite the right word, suggested that Kathleen’s mother should have aborted her and tossed the fetus into a Dumpster. There’s Socratic dialogue for you. Dear Pup once said to me sighfully after a right-winger who fancied himself a WFB protégé had said something transcendently and provocatively cretinous, “You know, I’ve spent my entire life time separating the Right from the kooks.” Well, the dear man did his best. At any rate, I don’t have the kidney at the moment for 12,000 emails saying how good it is he’s no longer alive to see his Judas of a son endorse for the presidency a covert Muslim who pals around with the Weather Underground. So, you’re reading it here first.
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who began his career at NR, just called Governor Palin “a cancer on the Republican Party.” As for Kathleen, she has to date received 12,000 (quite literally) foam-at-the-mouth hate-emails. One correspondent, if that’s quite the right word, suggested that Kathleen’s mother should have aborted her and tossed the fetus into a Dumpster.
One more in the tally for fucking scary Republicans.
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I won't hide my bias, bit I hated Palin from the moment her selection was announced. I thought she was unqualified, and I believed Charlie Crist was a better pick, because he could bring a state (Florida). Palin was red meat for the base and Alaska was already in the bag (hell, Alaska is going to re-elect Ted Stevens unless he goes to jail first!).

I have read the entire Legislative Council report on the Palin investigation. It's not that I have a lot of time, but this is exactly the type of work I did before I moved to Thailand (I was a lawyer emphasizing employment and municipality law - in other words, challenges to the firing and discipline of civil servants, like police officers, and elected officials).

The conclusion that Palin abused her authority was well-supported and is basically irrefutable, as there was consistent testimony from numerous state employees. Both Sarah and Todd Palin, acting in concert with numerous other state officials, who had served either on Palin's gubernatorial campaign or with her in the City of Wasilla, where she was mayor, hounded the public safety commissioner's office to re-open Wooten's disciplinary proceeding. The use of the governor's power and authority to pursue an aim that was personal and not governmental constitutes abuse of power, whether financial gain was sought or not.

Walt Monegan, the former public safety commissioner, served 33 years in the Anchorage Police Department. He moved up through the ranks and served as police chief from 2001-2006. When Palin became governor, she chose Monegan to fill the position of public safety commissioner.

On Monegan's second day of work, he received a request by telephone for a meeting with Sarah and Todd Palin. The meeting took place in December 2006, about 4 weeks after Palin took office. When Monegan entered the governor's office, only Todd Palin was there. Todd Palin was seated at the conference table and had a telephone at that seat. In fact, it was revealed that it was Todd Palin's office, as he was at that conference table about 50% of the time the office was open. Todd Palin was essentially an unelected deputy governor, sat in on almost all the meetings, and frequently made official phone calls on behalf of his wife, as well as e-mail correspondence.

At that first meeting, Todd Palin basically said that Wooten should have been severely disciplined or fired. He offered numerous documents in support of this. The incidents were thoroughly dealt with in a union-disciplinary hearing which occurred during the prior administration in 2005. Monegan said he would check into it. Monegan fully understood that Palin was trying to retaliate against Wooten as the result of the bitter divorce and custody battle between Wooten and Sarah Palin's sister.

On 2005, on the day that Sarah Palin's sister filed her divorce action, Sarah Palin's father filed a citizen's complaint against Wooten, alleging Wooten tasered his son, unlawfully shot a moose, drank while on duty, and other things. That complaint went to administrative hearing and Wooten received a short suspension without pay (which Sarah and Todd Palin called "a slap on the wrist").

Monegan had the Todd Palin douments reviewed and determined no new evidence was presented which would allow the fully adjudicated administrative hearing to be re-opened. He told this to Todd Palin. The moose killing could be pursued on a criminal basis. The problem was that Wooten was hunting with his wife (Palin's sister, who was licensed). Moreover, the moose was butchered by Palin's father. If criminal charges were pursued, Palin's father would also have to be prosecuted.

Over the next several months, Sarah Palin, and other officials in her camp, hounded Monegan to either fire or severely discipline Wooten. Monegan was rightly concerned about Wooten suing for wrongful termination. As all communications with state employees would be discoverable in such an action, he requested only Todd Palin discuss the Wooten matter with him.

Basically, there was nothing Monegan could do to Wooten. Wooten had a zealous union attorney backing him up. Yet, Palin continued to pressure Monegan. Things came to a head when Monegan's office, as part of an award given to many state troopers, sent a photograph of the troopers, including Wooten's photograph, to the governor for signature. Monegan was asked to resign a few days later.

The only real issue in this investigation, which remained, was whether Palin was genuinely threatened by Wooten. Palin's father had incorporated the threat against Palin in his civilian complaint against Wooten. No further threats had been claimed, and Palin had reduced her security staff in half. Branchflower noted that Wooten would have been just as much a threat to Palin if he were fired.


My overall impression is Palin was not even ready to be governor of a small state like Alaska, let alone vice-president. From Day 1 of her administration, it was a high priority to get Wooten fired. She used government resources and time to pursue a purely personal vendetta.

I am even more disturbed by Todd Palin's presence in the governor's office and an apparent delegation of gubernatorial duties to him. Branchflower could not even make findings against Todd Palin because he is not within the government's jurisdiction. In the unlikely event that McCain wins, how much power is Palin going to delegate to her husband? I think Sarah Palin is a cheerleading-beauty queen bimbo, and her husband is running the whole show behind the scenes. Scary, scary stuff.
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