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Originally Posted by sodum
Thai's, Filipino's, the UAE, etc, have no problem in guarding the door of immigration, and they also have no qualms in requiring you to respect (symbolically or not) their laws and traditions. Rub'em the wrong way, and your gone, had you assed whooped, or are in the slammer.
Are you suggesting western countries become more like the ones you've mentioned?
I don't think ''ass whooping'' is much of an education in inter-cultural relations. It would predictably create hate (or violence in addition to hate in my case, if the odds were good enough).
I imagine the learning curve of cultural norms would significantly be reduced for infractions tho'.
I do accept and typically follow the norms of whatever country I am in. Just makes good sense. It's their country --not mine, after all. This thought stream probably is universal, at least until one is introduced and indoctrinated into the concept of multiculturalism. Then resentment and victimology bloom, unfortunately.
Multiculturalism focuses on respect for ''groups'', and ''group rights''. Both of which I think are bullshit, and not conducive to a national identity and respect for the individual.
naboo, you don't think it's because ordinary people like these aren't listened to and are described a bit like you have done here that the BNP becomes so appealing?
Labour fucked up. they don't represent these people. they feel disgruntled. The BNP step in and take them seriously. They like being listened too and so they vote for those dickheads.
Like it or not, ordinary white working class Britons have problems that need addressing. The BNP are capitalising on that. Calling their voters ignorant or trashy or whatever isn't going to take the wind out of the BNP's sails. It's mainstream parties that are to blame for the BNP's success, not ordinary people who've been left behind.
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I'm pretty sure that millions of white proles fink dat the BNP is an abhorrent organisation. They prolly wouldn't use the word abhorrent, though, being proles and all.
Disgusting?
Somefink like dat.
We kept waiting
Still nothing changes
It's a shame
Will re-read asap.
We kept waiting
Still nothing changes
It's a shame
^^^
That was just my stoned side-comment about 1984...nothing more dude!
topically a study has just shown that, contrary to BNP claims, social housing is not biased towards immigrants:
Claims that immigrants prioritised for social housing 'a myth' | Politics | guardian.co.uk
you may be cynical as to why the survey was done now, but with all the well publicised BNP claims I think it was about time the myth was exposed.
I agree with Hollow, let them speak, beat them in debate.
that link is very funny and yet very sad at the same time.
thanks for posting!
But would it be possible to maybe come to a compromise with a noble race like the Chinese? Perhaps keep them on as a sort of servant class?
Yeah. I wouldn’t mind them if they actually worked and didn’t take all of our jobs, basically. I wouldn’t mind them if they contributed something to this country.
If, as a hypothetical solution to the problem of immigration, we turned over one city to immigrants and made them all live there in a sort of ghetto, what city would you choose?
Birmingham, because it’s full of them anyway.
So what nationality would you most like to be waited-on by as a servant class?
Oh God, there’s a few. There’s a couple I would, but I can’t really pinpoint one.
Go on.
I don’t know. Chinese maybe?
Sure thing. What ethnicity would you most like to make love to?
Oh, God, British.
Outside of that?
Say… black.
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Sur votre bicyclette, mate.
I would take a punt and say that if you sat down quietly with the entire British population and asked them their thoughts on how England's immigration policy has been over the last 45 years, the results might be rather startling.
Of course, in a democracy, the majority are those who decide what happens...doesn't it?
So the question might be..."Did you all vote for the immigration system you have lived under for the last 45 years?"
That might lead to a substantial movement to the BNP come next general election though!
Indeed. they have to start putting this kinds of issues to public referendums or, as they do stateside ballot initiates or propositions.
The government must then be bound by what the majority think.
I don't normally trust government "surveys'
Have these 1.8 percent "jumped" the ques. In these cases are there local folks who have been waiting for this time frame.A study for the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) found that only 1.8% of social tenants are immigrants who had moved to the UK in the past five years.
Some 87.8% were UK-born. Foreigners who had been living in Britain for more than five years made up 10% of social housing.
Some 87.8% were UK-born. Foreigners who had been living in Britain for more than five years made up 10% of social housing.
That ten percent number seems high to me.
I'll bet you that in some of the more racially mixed areas these figures simply don't apply. In fact I'll bet you money on it.
I smell a degree of "political' favouritism" and porkbarrelling going on.
Where there's smoke there's fire.
These bare bone statistical "proofs" might be good for children but adults can probably see right through the numbers.
How about we see some specific statistics for Birmingham, for example.
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If you're being run out of town, get in front of the crowd and make it look like a parade.
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The US system is probably not the system to emulate. Referendums are rare. Our political elite and isolated judiciary are the prime deciders of what's best for the majority --as most everywhere else in the western world.
Racial quotas and preferences are a prime example.
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